Thule ProBar Evo Roof Rack for Flush Rails - Aluminum - Silver - Qty 2

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• Roof Rack Components to Use with Thule Roof Tracks to Allow Crossbars to Slide
  The Thule roof racks that would use the Thule Roof Mounted Top Rack System # THTP54 were intended to allow the feet of the rack to slide forward and back in them. I am not sure why the guy in the video you watched decided to bolt everything through the track but that's not the way it was intended. You'd want to mount the tracks part # THTP54 and then use the fit kit part # THKIT3101 to mount the feet like part # TH460R. For your load bars, I recommend the Thule ProBar Evo Crossbars -...
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• What Parts Do I Need To Install The Thule Probars On My 2018 Mazda CX-5?
  Hey Robert, You could definitely go with the Thule Probars, TH713600, on your Mazda CX-5. You would want to pair those with the right fit kit and feet for your vehicle with those raised rails. For the feet pack you want to go with # TH49SC and for the custom fit kit you will need # TH22RA. These parts will all work well together to get that roof rack installed on your vehicle. The Thule Hullavators will fit right onto these crossbars great. One thing I always recommend checking is how...
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• Roof Rack Tower/Feet Compatibility with the Thule Hullavator Pro Kayak Carrier
  I reached out to my contact at Thule and they don't test them on any other roof racks. We just started carrying the Malone roof racks a few months ago, so we haven't test fit these products together to my knowledge. Can you send me a photo of the issue so I can help you troubleshoot it?
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• Thule 60 Inch Crossbars for 2020 Subaru Outback
  The solution for you is to use the ProBar Evo instead of square bars because as you stated the bottom slots of the square bar won't accommodate your fit. The Thule ProBar Evo has the slots that run the full distance of the bars, so the bars can be cut to a custom length. I recommend the Thule ProBar Evo Crossbars - Aluminum - 69" Long - Qty 2 # TH713600 which will work with both the carriers you mentioned and will give you your desired length. You will need to cut them to your custom...
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• Can Base Rails of Thule TracRac SR Ladder Rack be Used for a Roof Rack on 2018 Toyota Tundra
  The Thule TracRac SR Sliding Truck Bed Ladder Rack # TH43002XT-011 is a perfect option for your 2018 Toyota Tundra with the 8' bed and Deck Rail System. This installs via the stake pockets so your Deck Rail System won't be a factor when it comes to hardware installation. One of my favorite things about the TracRac SR is that it's one of the only ladder racks that are compatible with some tonneau covers. If you end up wanting to add one in the future then I highly recommend going with the...
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• Can Thule ProBar Evo Crossbars Be Installed on 2025 Subaru Forester Hybrid
  Hi Keith; the Evo Raised Rail Feet for Thule Crossbars # TH710401 (710405) will fit the raised rails on your 2025 Subaru Forester. Since they're compatible with Thule ProBar Evo Crossbars like # TH713600 you will be able to transfer over the bars from your Tacoma using these feet. Keep in mind, your typical Thule rack like # TH54ZA for the Forester has 50" crossbars on it. I'm not sure what you have now but they may be a bit long for your vehicle.
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• Will Thule Roof Rack Sit Above The Antenna Of A 2015 Nissan Murano With Flush Roof Rails?
  The Thule roof rack for your 2015 Nissan Murano consists of the Thule WingBar Evo Crossbars # TH711220, the Thule Podium Foot Pack for Aero Bars # TH460R, and the Thule Roof Rack Fit Kit for Podium-Style Foot Packs # THKIT3141. This roof rack may or may not clear the antenna on your vehicle depending on the height of your antenna. This roof rack will sit a little over 4 inches above the roof of your vehicle.
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• Longer Crossbar Roof Rack that Fits 2020 Chevy Colorado Crew Cab
  Hey Ant, I have a solution for a longer set of crossbars for the roof of your 2020 Chevy Colorado Crew Cab but not with the Yakima Jetstream bars that you referenced. The only solution is going to be with the Thule ProBars like the part # TH713600 which are 69 inches long. Reason that is the case is because it's only crossbar that has it's mounting channels on the bottom of the bar that go the entire length of the bar. All of the other bars only have the mounting channels just on the ends...
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• Will Thule Hullavator 897XT Fit Thule ProBar Evo Crossbars
  Hi Mike; I wish I had better news but the old Hullavator 897XT cannot be adapted to fit Thule ProBar Evo Crossbars like # TH713600. If you want to use those crossbars the only solution is to sell your current Hullavator and get the new Thule Hullavator Pro # TH898 which is compatible with the ProBar.
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• What Parts are Used for 2024 Chevrolet Silverado 3500 GM Rail Kit By Thule?
  Hey Emery, thanks for reaching out! We do have all of the parts that GM uses for that truck tonneau cover crossbar kit, but they aren't in a kit so you'll have to pick them up separately (or at least add them to the cart separately). Here are the parts you need for that exact kit from GM: - 69" Thule ProBar Evo Crossbars # TH713600 - Rapid Podium Feet # TH460R - Fit Kit # THKIT3101 My contact at Thule was able to confirm these parts for me. What do you plan on using the crossbar kit for?
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• Recommended Thule Roof Rack for an ARE Truck Cap with Rails
  The truck caps use the rails that the Thule Podium Feet # TH460R are compatible with when you use the Thule Fit Kit for Podium Style Foot Pack # THKIT3101. You would then need the appropriate length crossbar. For an Aero WingBar 53 inch # TH711420 or 60 inch # TH711520, or you can use the ProBar Evo # TH713600 or TH713700 which can be cut to custom length. I have linked all of these products to this page for your convenience.
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• Is Thule ProBar Crossbar Compatible with the Thule Rapid Tracker Foot Pack
  Yes, the Replacement Railing Foot for Thule Rapid Tracker Foot Pack # 753-2157-02 fits with the Thule ProBar # TH713600 or # TH713700. The Rapid Tracker feet were designed around the older AeroBlade crossbars which is why they are compatible with the ProBar, you just need to make sure that your fit kit is also compatible with these feet. If you have the square bar version of the Rapid Tracker then you can reuse your current fit kit, otherwise we need to look into a whole different solution...
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• Will Thule Hullavator Work With Thule ProBar Evo Crossbars
  I have a replacement option for you, but I reached out to my contact at Thule and he confirmed that the older Thule Hullavator 897XT you have will unfortunately not fit your new Thule ProBar Evo Crossbars # TH713600. He mentioned that unfortunately the Shim # TH56JV you mentioned will not allow the 897XT to work on your crossbars. Instead I recommend selling your current Hullavators and replacing them with the new Thule Hullavator # TH898 as it will slide into the t-track channels on your...
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• 2021 Chevy Silverado And Thule Feet Compatibility With T-slot Tonneau Cover
  You will need the Rapid Podium Feet for Thule Crossbars - Fixed Point - Qty 4, part # TH460R, the Fit Kit For Thule Podium-Style Roof Rack Feet, part # THKIT3101, the Thule ProBar Evo Crossbars - Aluminum - 69" Long - Qty 2, part # TH713600, and the Thule One-Key System Lock Cylinders - Qty 4, part # TH450400. The weight limit of this configuration will be based upon your tonneau cover's weight limit. These bars are elliptical shaped to help with wind noise and fuel efficiency. The crossbars...
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• Can I Replace A Thule Tracker II Foot On My Lance Camper, If Not What Do You Recommend
  I do have a solution for you. Unfortunately, the only part of the rack you would be able to use with the new rack would be the Thule Top Tracks. When Thule redesigned the system they did not make the new feet, crossbars, or fit kits, backwards compatible with their old system. Your new roof rack will consist of the following items: Thule SquareBar Evo Crossbars - Qty 2 60", part # TH712500, 53", part # TH712400, 50", part # TH712300 Thule ProBar Evo Crossbars - Aluminum - 69" Long - Qty...
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• Recommended Roof Rack for a Hullavator on a 2019 Jeep Wrangler Hard Top
  Yes, there is a Thule roof rack that will accommodate a Thule Hullavator but you will need one with longer crossbars. The Thule Hullavator item # TH898 requires crossbars that extend 4" - 8" past the legs to allow the lift assist function to work. You will need the following parts: Thule ProBar Evo Crossbars - Aluminum - 69" Long - Qty 2 item # TH713600 Rapid Gutter Feet for Thule Crossbars - Rain Gutters - 5" Tall - Qty 4 item # TH65BJ This system is compatible with the Thule Hullavator...
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• Thule Probars Compatibility with Channel Mounted Accessories
  We do not have a profile diagram, however the Thule ProBar Evo 69" # TH713600 or 79" # TH713700 are designed to have channels like the aerobars and will fit the same accessories because the channels are the same. The biggest benefit to the ProBar is the channel underneath runs the entire distance of the bar so they can be trimmed to any desired length and they also have a second channel with the same dimensions as the top channel for more accessories. Basically any accessory that fits...
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• Will Yakima Baseline Towers Work with Thule ProBar Evo Crossbars
  I do have an option for you but the Thule ProBar Evo Crossbars like part # TH713600 are not compatible with the Yakima Baseline Towers. In order to use the Thule ProBar Evo Crossbars you'll need the Evo Clamp Feet for Thule Crossbars part # TH710501 and subsequent vehicle specific fit kit. The other option would be to simply use the Yakima HD Crossbars like part # Y01158. I have attached a full list of sizes below for this crossbar. The channel dimensions which the crossbars mount to are...
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• What is the Difference Between the Thule Traverse 480 and Rapid Travers 480R?
  The Thule Traverse 480 has been discontinued and is only compatible with square load bars which are also discontinued. The Thule Rapid Traverse Foot Pack # TH480R are compatible with the Aero Style bars like the AeroBlade or WingBar Evo, the ProBar Evo bars, and the SquareBar that has a slot on the underside. I've linked the page to all these crossbar options to assist. The ProBar Evo # TH713700 and # TH713600 are the only crossbars that can be cut to custom lengths like the older square...
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• Recommended Thule Aero Style Bar for Lengths Longer than 60 Inch WingBar Evo for Subaru Outback
  Thule WingBar Evo Crossbars do not come in lengths beyond 60 inches. To get longer bars that are compatible with your Thule feet you will need to use their ProBar. The Thule ProBar Evo Crossbars - Aluminum - 69" Long - Qty 2 # TH713600 can be cut to your custom length as the channels run the entire length of the bars. They still have an aero style with a top channel but they also have a rear channel and bottom channel that span the entire length to give you more mounting options. These...
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• Recommended Roof Rack to Mount Two Hullavators on a 2024 GMC Sierra 2500 4 Door
  Hey George! The Thule Hullavator Pro Kayak Roof Rack item # TH898 requires crossbars that extend 4"-8" over the side of the mounting legs for the lift assist feature to function without hitting the side of your truck. There's only one set up that is going to work with your 2024 GMC Sierra 2500 and I have listed the parts you will need below: Fit Kit for Thule Evo Clamp and Edge Clamp Roof Rack Feet item # TH145071 Evo Clamp Feet for Thule Crossbars item # TH710501 69" Thule ProBar Evo...
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• What Thule Roof Rack Can I Get for My A.R.E. Cap with Factory Tracks?
  Yes, we do carry a Thule roof rack system that will work for your A.R.E. truck cap with factory tracks. For the best Thule system, you will need the following parts: - Thule ProBar Evo Crossbars - Aluminum - 69" # TH713600 - Rapid Podium Feet for Thule Crossbars - Fixed Point # TH460R - Fit Kit for Thule Podium-Style Roof Rack Feet # THKIT3101 With this roof rack system, you will have a maximum weight capacity of 165 pounds that you can use on your factory tracks on your cap.
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• SnugTop Rebel Camper Shell with Roof Tracks Roof Rack Recommendation
  For a heavier duty roof rack setup for the SnugTop Rebel camper shell that has tracks I would go with the Thule Probar Evo setup that is part numbers # THKIT3101, feet # TH460R, and 69 inch long crossbar part # TH713600 and you'd be set. The Probar Evo is a higher capacity crossbar that is also aero shaped for reduced wind noise.
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• Is the Yakima Highroad Bike Rack Compatible with the Thule ProBar Crossbars?
  Yes, the Yakima HighRoad Roof Bike Rack item # Y02114 does fit the Thule ProBar Evo Crossbars item # TH713600. I also recommend the Yakima Same Key System item # Y07202. This set of locking cores allows you to secure your bike rack. It fits into the integrated locking cable.
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• Can Thule Pulse Fit 2022 BMW X5 with Antenna
  The Thule Pulse roof cargo box part # TH615 will fit your 2022 BMW X5 once you get a roof rack installed and due to the profile of the box, the profile of your roof, and the lower height of the fin it would not interfere. Since I can see that your 2022 BMW X5 has flush roof rails the roof rack I would recommend is the Thule Wingbar Edge part # TH56FE, # TH89SC, and # TH186007 which will give you a sleek OEM style roof rack that has crossbars that mount flush to the feet of the rack instead...
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• Roof Rack Recommendation for 2022 Ford Escape with Flush Rails
  I have the perfect solution for you with the Thule WingBar Evo roof rack system. This installs directly to the flush rails on your 2022 Ford Escape and looks really sleek once in place. I especially like the dual rubber strip on the top because it makes installing T-Slot accessories much easier. Here are the parts that you need: 53" WingBar Evo Crossbars - Black # TH711420 or Silver # TH711400 Evo Flush Rail Feet - # TH710601 Fit Kit - # TH96RV Lock Core Kit - # TH450400 (optional) If...
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• Best Roof Rack and Kayak Carrier for 2019 Subaru Outback Touring
  The best option for a roof rack and kayak carrier for your 2019 Subaru Outback Touring Wagon with flush mounted rails is from Thule and consists of - Thule WingBar Evo Crossbars # TH711220 (Black) OR # TH711200 (Silver) - Thule Evo Flush Rail Feet # TH710601 - Thule Roof Rack Fit Kit # TH186047 This is a sleek, highly functional, durable roof rack which will allow you to use the Yakima JayLow Kayak Carrier w/ Tie-Downs # Y04073. The JayLow is compatible with the WingBar roof rack and...
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• Recommended Crossbars to Mount a Thule Hullavator to a 2024 Subaru Outback Touring XT
  Bruce, to mount the Thule Hullavator # TH898 on your 2024 Subaru Outback Touring, you're just going to need to add a set of crossbars. I recommend going with an Aero style, personally, like the Thule WingBar Evo Crossbars # TH711120 with the feet # TH710601 and the fit kit # TH37CE. These aren't any more or less special than the others, but I think the shape of these bars are much nicer and it will work with about every accessory that requires bars to mount.
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• Thule Roof Rack Kit and Locks for 2022 Lexus RX350 w/ Panoramic Sunroof
  I would be happy to help you find a roof rack for your 2022 Lexus RX 350. I recommend a kit from Thule that is designed specifically for your Lexus by attaching to your roof rails and it will also accommodate your panoramic glass sunroof. Fit Kit for Thule Evo Flush Roof Rack Feet - 186044 item # TH186044. These custom clips and pads let you mount Thule Evo Flush feet on your Lexus with flush, factory side rails. Clips attach to a mounting bolt in the foot assembly and tighten together...
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• Will Yakima Roof Rack and Yakima SkyBox 21 Fit a 2018 Mercedes-Benz GLC300 with Flush Rails
  I'm not sure what Thule products you already have but there are roof rack options from Thule, as well as Yakima, that are compatible with your 2018 Mercedes-Benz GLC300 with the flush mounted rails. The Thule roof rack option includes the 47" WingBar Evo Bars # TH711220 Black or # TH711200 Silver, the Foot Pack # TH710601, and the Fit Kit # TH186020. The Yakima roof rack options include the 50" JetStream Bars # Y00425 Black, along with the RidgeLine Towers # Y00145 and Fit Kit # Y06022. When...
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• Recommended Roof Rack for a 2020 Honda Pilot w/ Flush Rails
  No, we do not because the 2020 Honda Pilot's flush roof rails have holes predrilled into them to attach the crossbars. All of the available roof racks mount to the flush rails this way and can not be adjusted. There are no clamping roof racks that will secure to the rails without being screwed into these holes. To add a roof rack to your 2020 Honda Pilot's flush roof rails, I recommend the roof rack by Thule which includes the following parts: Thule WingBar Evo Crossbars - Aluminum -...
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• Roof Rack Recommendation to Clear Sun Roof on 2022 Mercedes-Benz GLC 300
  The roof rack I recommend using for your 2022 Mercedes-Benz GLC 300 is the Thule WingBar Evo system which uses the following parts: 47" WingBar Evo Crossbars - # TH711220 Evo Flush Rail Feet - # TH710601 Fit Kit - # TH186020 Lock Core Kit - # TH450400 We actually had the opportunity to install this same system on a 2019 MB GLC which I'm attaching for you to check out. If you jump to the 3:00 minute mark you can see where we open up the top window panel and it clears the roof rack just...
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• Will Thule Hullavator Pro Fit 2021 Hyundai Palisade Factory Roof Rack
  Hi Ben; unfortunately, the Thule Hullavator Pro # TH898 will not fit your Hyundai factory roof rack. The Hullavator requires crossbars that extend 4" - 8" beyond the feet for proper clearance so you will need to put on an aftermarket rack to meet these requirements. Sticking with Thule, I recommend the WingBar Evo rack. You will need the Evo Flush Rail Feet # TH710601 and the Fit Kit for Thule Evo Flush Rail Roof Rack Feet # TH83CE. Thule typically recommends the 50" bars but they won't...
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• Which Thule Roof Rack Feet Fit 2025 Subaru Forester Touring for Evo Wingbars
  Hey Peter, the correct Thule feet for your 2025 Subaru Forester with flush rails is the Evo Flush Rail Feet part # TH710601 that you referenced. You'll also need the correct fit kit as well which is part # TH55EE.
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• Will the Thule Force XT L Fit My 2020 BMW X5?
  Yes, you will be able to fit the Thule Force XT L # TH6357B on your 2020 BMW X5's roof. Not only do you have enough roof for the required crossbar spread of 23-5/8 - 33 inches, you will also be able to mount the box to your roof and fully open your rear hatch. If you are wanting to go bigger, the Thule Force XT XL # TH6358B and XXL # TH6359B will fit as well. As far as mounting, you will need a crossbar system in order to secure the Force XT XXL to your roof. The setup you need depends...
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• Is Thule Atlantis 1600 XT Cargo Box Compatible with Aero-Style Bars on a 2018 BMW X3
  Yes, you will need a new foot pack and fit kit for the aero-style bars on your 2006 BMW X3. This is due to a recent upgrade that Thule went through with their roof racks. According to Thule the Atlantis 1600 XT uses the Quick Grip Mount Assembly # TH05738 so your cargo box would be compatible with Aero-style crossbars. The Atlantis 1600 XT should fit both the BMW OEM crossbar system as well as the Thule AeroBlade roof rack. I wasn't able to find specifics for the BMW system but the Thule...
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• Parts Needed to Add Thule Crossbars and Hullavator to 2024 Subaru Outback XT
  Hey Jim! Since you already have 53" WingBar Evo crossbars the only thing you need is the Evo Flush Rail Feet # TH710601 and Fit Kit # TH37CE to complete your roof rack. This will allow you to mount the Hullavator # TH898 on top of your 2024 Subaru Outback XT. If you need anything else feel free to reach out in the comments below.
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• Roof Rack, Basket, and Cargo Bag Recommendations for 2018 Volvo XC90
  For your application I recommend using the Thule WingBar Evo roof rack system with the Small Inno Roof Deck Platform Rack # INA510 and the Thule Interstate Cargo Bag # TH869. I've personally installed the Inno Roof Deck Platform Rack a number of times (see attached on a 2017 Nissan Titan) and it is pretty light (28.7 lbs) plus it is very easy to install. When it comes to your Thule roof rack the parts will vary depending on if your 2018 Volvo XC90 has the raised or flush rails: Raised...
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• Recommended Roof Rack and Kayak Carrier for a 2018 Jaguar F-Pace
  In order to carry a kayak on the roof of your 2018 Jaguar F-Pace you will need a roof rack. I recommend using the Thule WingBar Evo system as Thule is currently (June 2020) the only fit available and the WingBar Evo looks much better than the AeroBlade Edge in my opinion. For this roof rack you need the following parts: 47" WingBar Evo Crossbars - Black # TH711220 or Silver # TH711200 Evo Flush Rail Feet - # TH710601 Fit Kit - # TH69JV When it comes to a kayak carrier I really like the...
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• Mounting Platform Rack to 2025 GMC Yukon XL AT4
  Hey Alex! It looks like you went ahead and settled on the Thule Caprock Platform Roof Rack # TH76XE. This only requires two crossbars so the Thule WingBar Evo Roof Rack for Flush Rails # TH94CG will allow you to mount it on your 2025 Yukon XL AT4. I see you also picked up extra feet # TH710601 and a fit kit # TH95JW. Were you planning to use them separately to mount the Caprock? The # TH94CG is a complete roof rack that includes the feet, fit kit, and crossbars.
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• Does Thule Roof Rack Fit 2017 Lexus RX 350 with Panoramic Roof
  I checked with Thule and their roof rack fits for your 2017 Lexus RX 350 do not exclude models with the panoramic roof so it will fit. Also they do not state that it has to remain closed. The Thule rack consists of the WingBar Evo # TH711200, feet # TH710601, and fit kit # TH186044. Normally we recommend against opening sunroofs with roof racks as the wind noise created can be pretty intense.
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• Yakima Jetstream Roof Rack Recommendation for 2019 Mercedes Benz GLC Class
  Yakima discontinued the Whispbar brand back in 2016 and the bars don't fit the current JetStream style roof racks unfortunately. You'd need an all new roof rack with part numbers # TH711220, # TH710601, and # TH186020.
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• Thule Evo Roof Rack For a 2023 Subaru Crosstrek Without Raised Rails To Carry Hullavator Kayak Rack
  Since your 2023 Subaru Crosstrek does not have raised rails you are going to need a whole new roof rack since the Thule Rapid 450R Feet # 753-3399-02 are only going to fit vehicles with raised rails. I recommend sticking with the Thule roof rack system so you can use all the same keys for the rack and your Thule Hullavator Pro Kayak Roof Rack # TH898. You will need the Thule WingBar Evo Crossbars # TH711320 paired with the Feet # TH710601 and Fit Kit # TH25KE if you have the flush rails....
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• Recommended Thule Roof Rack for a 2025 Honda CRV w/ Factory Side Rails
  Hey Chris! Sorry, but the Evo Clamp Feet for Thule Crossbars item # TH710501 only work on the naked roof models of the 2025 Honda CRV. Unless you want to pop those rails off you'll need to use a set that includes the Evo Flush Rail Feet for Thule Crossbars - Flush Side Rails item # TH710601. You will also need the Fit Kit for Thule Evo Flush Rail and Edge Flush Rail Roof Rack Feet item # TH52KE to attach to the roof rails. The recommended crossbars for your Honda CRV are the 50" Thule...
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• Recommended Roof Rack for a 2021 BMW X3 and a 2022 Volvo XC40
  Hey Trevor there's only one roof rack that has a common part amongst your 2022 Volvo XC40 and your 2021 BMW X3. The common part is the Evo Flush Rail Feet for Thule Crossbars item # TH710601. Now you could go with the longer 50" Thule WingBar Evo Crossbars item # TH711320 for both vehicles. These are recommended for the X3 and are 3" longer then the ones recommend for the XC40 item # TH711220. Here's how the roof racks break down for both of your vehicles. I have listed the entire kit...
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• Thule Flush Roof Rack For a 2017 Lexus RX350 with Factory Flush Rails
  I do have Thule options for a 2017 Lexus RX 350 with flush rails but the Thule AeroBlade Edge is an old system that we no longer carry the correct fit kits for. Instead, I recommend the Thule WingBar Evo Crossbar part # TH711220, part # TH710601,and part # TH186044 which has the updated design. I know this system doesn't have the flush bar style you were after but they don' stick out much further at all and they allow for more items to be carrier. It can also be easier removed when not...
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• Best Roof Rack for a 2017 Lexus RX350 with Panoramic Roof
  The best roof rack for a 2017 Lexus RX 350 with panoramic roof is the Thule WingBar Evo Crossbar part # TH711220, part # TH710601, and part # TH186044. The Thule WingBar is one of the most aerodynamic crossbars on the market therefore will provide the least amount of wind resistance (more mpgs) and drag (less noise). There won't be any fit issues with the panoramic roof either as the feet mount to the flush side rail. The longer crossbars when compared to factory roof racks will allow you...
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• 2003 Subaru Forester Parts to Fit Thule Square Bar to Flush Mount Rails
  Hey Jose, thanks for reaching out! If you have the new style Thule square bars with the slots on the undersides, like the part # TH712200, then you'll need these Thule parts: - Evo Flush Rail Feet # TH710601 - Fit Kit # TH75JE - Lock Kit # TH450400 For the older style of Thule square bars that don't have the slots on the undersides, we'll need to get you setup with some parts from Inno, as Thule doesn't make parts that fit with that crossbar anymore. Here are the Inno parts you need: ...
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