Thule TracRac SR Sliding Truck Bed Ladder Rack - 1,250 lbs
Item # TH43002XT-508
Our Price: $1,399.90
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2012 Ford F-150
5-1/2 Foot Bed
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2012 Ford F-150 - Thule TracRac SR Sliding Truck Bed Ladder Rack - 1,250 lbs
- Truck Bed
- Sliding Rack
- Thule
- No-Drill Application
- Over the Bed
- Fixed Height
TracRac provides the ultimate in versatility with this sliding ladder rack. Rack adjusts along the length of your truck bed and easily removes from the T-track base rails. Durable aluminum is lightweight and rustproof. Multiple tie-downs included.
Features:
- Adjustable ladder rack slides in unique, T-track base rails along the full length of your vehicle's bed
- Perfect for long loads, short loads, and everything in between
- Integrated, quick-release clamping knobs can be loosened to move rack, tightened to secure it in place
- Rack can be removed from track quickly and easily
- Aerodynamic design reduces drag and wind noise
- Elliptical crossbars are streamlined to minimize wind resistance
- Airfoil trip strips prevent air from whistling through slots
- 6000-Series aluminum construction is strong and durable
- Lightweight material won't detract from load rating
- Internal web structure of crossbars increases strength and rigidity
- Dual-stage powder coat finish adds extra rust protection
- E-coat is followed by a clear coat for improved resistance to scratches
- 4 Heavy-duty, aluminum load stops included - keep ladders, lumber, and other cargo in place
- Mount quickly and easily in top slots of crossbars
- Slide within slots to adjust
- Lock in place with simple twist of a knob
- 4 Side cleats attach to uprights for additional tie-down options
- No-drill installation - mounts in stake pockets
- Wide base on either side of each upright provides superior stability - no need for additional bracing
- Made in the USA
Specs:
- Carrying capacity: 1,250 lbs
- Crossbar length: 69-1/2"
- Rack height (with base rails): 27-5/16"
- Limited lifetime warranty
TracRac Base Rails
The TracRac base rails provide the foundation for this unique, customizable system. No-drill, stake-pocket installation yields securely mounted rails that sit atop your factory side rails. Each rail has 2 tracks for maximum adjustability.
Because the rack section at the front of your truck bed mounts to a different T-track than the one in the rear, the sections can be moved so that they are right next to each other. The result is unobstructed access to your truck bed and improved aerodynamics when you are not using the rack.
TracRac offers accessories that are designed to mount in these tracks. Base rail tie-downs (sold separately) give you additional cargo-management options. These rustproof, aluminum tie-downs slide across the rails for optimal placement and are secured in place with the turn of a knob.
TracRac Slotted Crossbars
The sturdy aluminum crossbars on all TracRac truck racks feature integrated slots for mounting and easily adjusting accessories, such as the included load stops. These slots appear on both the top and bottom of the bars for the ultimate in mounting versatility. Like the pieces that mount in the base rails, these accessories also have quick-release knobs that let you loosen and tighten them with a mere twist of a knob so that they can be positioned as needed along the bars.
A built-in trip strip at the front of each crossbar shields the slots from wind, maintaining the aerodynamic quality of the bars and preventing that annoying whistle you often find with slotted bars.
Included Tie-Downs
Included with your TracRac SR are 8 tie-down accessories. The 4 load stops are designed to mount in the slots of the crossbars and slide along them for quick, easy adjustment. These bookend-style pieces help to hold ladders and lumber in place on the crossbars. They also have built-in loops for securing tie-down straps.
The 4 cleats attach at any of the provided mounting points along the outsides of the upright supports so that you can tie down items that require additional anchoring or that sit in your truck bed.
Sturdy, Rustproof Construction
The TracRac base rails and rack system, as well as most TracRac accessories, are constructed of durable, lightweight aluminum. Because aluminum is lighter than steel - the material most often used for truck racks - only a small percentage of your truck's cargo capacity is taken up by the rack itself, enabling you to pack on more weight than you could with a steel system.
Even though aluminum is already rustproof in itself, TracRac has taken the extra step of adding a dual powder coat finish to further protect your rack. The electrostatic powder coat (e-coat) clings to the metal surface better than traditional paint finishes for a more durable covering. The second coat is a clear finish that adds extra shine and protection from scuffs and scratches.
43002 Thule Track Rack SR Sliding, Truck Bed Rack
21508 Thule Track Rack Base Rails - Ford F150 Super Crew Trucks
Replaces TracRac TA21508-02
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Customer Satisfaction Score:
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Customer Reviews
Thule TracRac SR Sliding Truck Bed Ladder Rack - 1,250 lbs - TH43002XT-508
Average Customer Rating: 4.6 out of 5 stars (136 Customer Reviews)
TracRac provides the ultimate in versatility with this sliding ladder rack. Rack adjusts along the length of your truck bed and easily removes from the T-track base rails. Durable aluminum is lightweight and rustproof. Multiple tie-downs included.by: Adam 12/08/2023
2013 FordF-150
Fit perfectly. Was a little concerned that it wouldn't work with my bed cover. But it does and couldn't be happier.
by: Dave 02/15/2023
FordF-150
This Thule Trac Rac with my BAK X4 Revolver is the perfect combo for my needs.
The rack was an easy install on my 2020 F150, solid, quality and finish is premium.
Karen at etrailer went the extra mile,
I am traveling, she made calls and found a location for delivery near my location and took care of every detail. The Rack was shipped the next day and on my truck 6 days later. Another great purchasing experience with etrailer.
by: Thomas06/08/2020
It was a tight fit with my existing GatorTrax Tonneau Cover but doable. The Bull Ring Pocket Router made cutting of the stake pockets a breeze.
by: Steven 08/19/2023
Very high quality product with excellent customer service. Highly recommend Thule and etrailer!
by: Robin 10/06/2023
by: Sean 04/07/2020
Amazing Service!
by: John 08/13/2022
2022 FordF-150
by: William 08/02/2021
by: Kyle 04/28/2023
by: Doug 02/07/2021
by: Tim12/15/2023
Past 20 years I've used Rack-It truck racks. They're solid steel, eventually rust and took two grown men (and an extra set of nuts) to remove them from the truck. Great racks. Just way more than what I need the older I get.
However I wanted something that could easily be removed (by myself), if needed, and was aluminum. I bought these, as well as the extension cantilever, and it serves my needs as a general contractor. It supports my 24' walk plank just fine. The only thing I have to be creative to transport is full length rebar. If I transported rebar all the time, this rack would not be my first choice.
At the time of my purchase, there was not a specific rack for my GMC AT4. So I simply measured the bed of the truck, bought one with a similar measurement, and modified the drilling holes to work.
Lastly, I didn't want a silver color rack on my black truck. While you could get the racks in black. You could not purchase a black cantilever. So I simply had all the pieces powder coated black.
Honestly, I get a lot of compliments on it. Because no one else has one like it.
I'm very happy with it. It's perfect for the occasional ladder, walk plank, or 16' piece of lumber. I've had it mounted for over a year now, with zero problems! I remove it weekly to go through the car wash, and throw it back on in 5 min or less when i get home.
by: Jeff10/04/2023
DO NOT TRUST THE ADVICE GIVEN BY THE SO-CALLED EXPERTS AT ETRAILER. This rack WILL NOT fit the Carbon Pro Bed...I was told by 2 different "experts" that this rack would fit my 2023 Sierra w/the Carbon Pro Bed, since this rack mounted to the stakebed pockets and not to the underside of the bedrail. After receiving my order, I prepared to install the rails and cutout the front stakebed pocket covers which is required to do the install (also indicated by Kevin C. from ETrailer). As soon as I got to step 3 of the rail install instructions, I knew there was a problem. The instructions indicated there was a hole on the inside of the bed to secure the rear stakebed pocket adapter to. There is no hole or any other type of access to any of the stakebed pockets on the Carbon Pro Bed. So, now I have altered bedrails and have a rack that does not fit. It is completely irresponsible of the "experts" at Etrailer to provide information or direction that is not true or hasn't been confirmed.
by: Thomas03/14/2024
Great product, light weight , well built.
Customer service is very responsive.
have a Ford lighting so wanted a light truck rack.
easily removal to save on range/ milage.Made in the USA.
by: Teofilo09/16/2023
I received packages with Thule trac rac SR sliding truck bed ladder rack,Iam totally disappointed, parts arrived incomplete,mising:
04 rubber shim
04 rubber block for base rail
04 metal pocket nut
also
04 crossbar tie down
I really want you fix this problem by replacing the missing parts or else I will return everything
by: BurningDaylight03/17/2023
Just installed this last night sobs true rating is hard to do. With that said it is definitely good quality very tight with no wobble! Hope it works like I want with removal for trips and going through the car wash. Keeps the truck looking pretty sharp compared to the traditional ladder racks!!
by: Harry W04/13/2022
etrailer.com is an outstanding company. I purchased a Thule system in January. Due to logistics (my fault) I tried to install the system in April. Three of the attachment arms were incorrect. I contacted Ashley of etrailer, the sales representative who sold me the system, who patiently listened and after receiving the needed photos and explanation, etrailer sent me a replacement system. The new system was installed and the truck is ready to go. Ashley's professionalism, communication skills, product knowledge were excellent. Ashley and etrailers' commitment to solving my issue expeditiously puts etrailer in a class by itself.
by: Eric K09/30/2020
Very heavy duty ladder rack that does not "whistle" while you drive down the road. Easy install overall, and it is very easy to install and remove the racks as needed after the original install. At the time of purchase this was not available for my vehicle with a short 5.5' bed, but with very minor fabrication the rails for longer beds fit perfectly. I have recommended this rack to several people since purchased a year ago.
by: Christian11/24/2021
I did install the Thule TracRac SR. I did it on my own and it went well.
I'm really pleased with it.
As for the photo, I will send you one, once I've washed my truck.
Can't make a photo with a dirty truck.
I will leave feedback later after some time with the rack.
by: Manny08/27/2022
I searched many ladder racks I was unsatisfied till I found this one. It’s beautiful it’s light and it’s versatile. I have a X-short bed Toyota Tundra platinum with a top. With this ladder rack I was able to keep my topper.
by: Robert B.09/20/2019
Very happy with the rack on my 2018 Silverado. I also have the Back flip hard top bed cover. I am able to open all but the very last position. I might still be able to adjust the rails and to get there but it hasn't been an issue. Used it to haul lumber and I made a bicycle rack that works with the racks and the bed cover down. Works great. Was not hard to install.
by: Jeremy 05/27/2023
Really nice rack. Exceptional customer service from Sherry S. Was looking for something to rack out my truck but not lose bed cover. The sliding rack is awesome. Can move it forward if bed room needed. Came back and ordered some additional accessories (self retracting ratchets, pads for crossbars, storage bag, tie down loops. Quality is top notch. Seems pricey, but when compared to other racks isn’t really all that bad when you are getting grade A product that has versatility. Also keeps the truck looking pretty nice. If I could give 10 stars I’d do it. Just buy it… and buy it from etrailer. Delivered on time, as advertised.
by: Darryl C07/14/2023
This is the second trac-rac I have owned and have had one for the past 18 years.
The flexibility it allows is is fantastic. Would not own any other ladder rack
by: Jeff N07/10/2017
This is a great product and works really well with the Bak RevolverX2 Tonneau cover.
The only reason I didn't give it a 5 was because the base track has about a 3/4" overhang at the rear of the bed rails. Unfortunately the bed rails of the 2016 Tundra Double Cab are not square. As you can see from my photos, the front fits flush while the rear hangs over. Besides that, they are very sturdy and installation was simple.
Knowing what I know now, I would still buy this product again.
by: Chris07/20/2015
Couldn't be happier with the Rack, it went together and operates flawlessly. Dealing with e trailer was a snap, I was informed all the way through the buying process of shipping and arrival dates. Will absolutely buy shop again with e trailer.
by: Mark WHI09/23/2019
Great product! Packaging could be better for the larger pieces (rub marks). My 2018 Ram 1500 quad cab came with some small challenges that I had to solve myself. No videos or written words available. Basically if your bed rails are covered with a bed liner you need to remove the plastic sleeve in the rear stake pockets. Otherwise you won’t get an equal spacing from one rail to the other. You will also need to use the provided rubber tape with the wedges in order to make the rails level. Otherwise it went together great.
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