Turn Signals on Trailer Not Working When Running Lights are On

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Hello. I have a very similar issue to what was described by a previous individual brake lights, running lights and turn signals on both trailer lights work but when the running lights are on, neither turn signal on the trailer lights, will work. What I will include for information which was not included in the other individuals issues is that both hazard lights will work on the trailer while the running lights are on, so I dont understand why each individual turn signal will not work while the running lights are on. ???? I have taken apart the 4 blade trailer adapter, including testing each contact for continuity and each one is fine. Please help if you can with this as this is very frustrating. It is a 4 wire system: Ground white, Yellow, Green and Brown wires. Thank you for your help.

asked by: James B

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The most likely cause for the turn signals not to work when the running lights are on with your trailer is a bad or weak ground. It's very possible that a weak ground connection can be just strong enough to allow sufficient current for some lights to pass, but not enough for everything. With the running lights on, there may simply not be enough power to also activate the turn signal lights. Considering that all of the trailer rear light functions appear to work fine individually, this is very likely the issue.

I recommend checking to make sure your trailer connector's ground is secured to a clean bare metal surface on the trailer frame. Make sure that there is no debris or corrosion that may be preventing the required clean connection. You can also check to see that each individual light's ground is secure.

If all the ground connections look good, you should also make sure the current rating of your vehicle wiring harness is sufficient to handle the trailer lights.

Please let me know if you are still unable to find the cause of this issue and I will be happy to look into this further.

expert reply by: Chris R

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Thamus J.

2/22/2024

Running light on passenger side blinker not working only blinker but blinker doesn’t work on that side if running light are powered

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Chris R.

2/26/2024

@ThamusJ Wiring is fun isn't it? While I can't be certain what's going on in your case, it does sound like a classic weak ground scenario since the problem seems to only come up when you have the running lights on, which requires the most amperage to run. When you have those on, there isn't enough left over to also kick over to the signal lights, which makes me think that you might just need to re-do the ground attachment on that white wire. Let me know if that doesn't help.

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Ron E.

3/19/2024

@ChrisR I have the same issue as described above, but it's only my left side blinker having the issue. Each blinker has its own ground. I just replaced the entire light, wires to it and ground connection to bare clean metal and still no luck.

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Jon G.

3/29/2024

@RonE I would try running power directly to that light to make sure the assembly is working properly. If it is then you might need to replace the wiring from your trailer connector all the way back to the assembly. This will require 16 Gauge Wire # 16-1-1 and Butt Connectors # DW05744-5.

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Colin

6/28/2024

I have similar problems. Runnings lights all work. Signals/ hazards work. But won’t work together. I have redone ALL grounds to bare shiny metal with brand new connectors, re did main 7 pin ground to frame. I put extra ground wires from each tail light to trailer frame. I still have the same problem. All fuses in truck are working properly. I’ve tested ohms readings with multi meter everything is testing as it should, as well as in dc volts.. I’m running out of ideas and patients. Please help

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Ray

7/23/2024

Hi Chris Currently my trailer has no running lights. When 4 ways turn on , all the lights come one, when brake is pushed, only one tail light comes on. When I signal left no lights come on. When I signal right all lights come on. Any suggestions where to start looking Thanks

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Chris R.

7/24/2024

@Ray That sounds fun! It seems like basically nothing is quite working like it should. I'd start by testing the 4-Way on the vehicle side for function, using a circuit tester at each pin while activating the corresponding function in the vehicle. If everything is getting power like it should there, you know the problem is somewhere on the trailer. If that's the case it sounds like there's likely a short or exposed portion of wiring somewhere that's causing power to bleed into other circuits.

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Answer 1

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Answer 2

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Answer 3

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Answer 4

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Answer 5

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Answer 11

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