Recommended Disc Brake Kit for AL-KO 6,000 lb Axles

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I have a 2006 Forest River Cedar Creek Silverback 33LBHTS fifth wheel. I want to put a disc brake conversion on it. From what I can gather by the specs it has AL-KO 6000# axles. I crawled under the trailer and see no axle tags. It has 8 lug 16inch wheels. Can you help with what I would need to do this conversion? Thank you

asked by: Todd B

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For your AL-KO 6,000 lb axles, you will want the Kodiak Disc Brake Kit # K2HR858AE that will fit the same #42 spindles used on that axle. This kit will give you the calipers, discs, and oil cap, but you will need to get the bearings and seal separately. For the inner bearing you will use # 25580, and you'll use # 02475 for the outer bearing. The seal needed is # RG06-070 sold in the pair.

For your brake lines and Electric over Hydraulic actuator, I recommend the HydraStar Electric Over Hydraulic Actuator Kit for Disc Brakes - 1,600 psi # HBA16-252-82. I've attached a couple videos and an article to assist.

expert reply by: Jason S

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Butch

7/7/2020

change 12 in drum brakes to disc brakes? i have a wagner FC-12103 hitch. what can i replace it?

Chris R.

7/10/2020

I've linked our full selection of disc brakes below - the right replacements for your trailer will depend on your axle capacity, etc. I wasn't able to find much info on that Wagner actuator - it looks like the part number you found is just for the reservoir cap. Is there anything else stamped onto the unit?

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Butch

7/11/2020

thank you. You are correct about the part number being for the hitch cap. The hitch cap capacity is 20,000 lbs. I found an actuator that looks like the one I have. I am beliving it is good for 20,000 lbs. Just my judgement. How can I determine the axle capacity? This stuff is more complex than I thought. I am believing it will be $2,000 (not counting my labor to install) to repair the brake system. Now wondering if the trailer is worth it. @ChrisR

Chris R.

7/15/2020

@Butch There should hopefully be a tag/sticker on one of the axles that show its specs (capacity, type, etc). Otherwise this info would be listed in the trailer's paperwork. If you can pull one of the existing hubs and note the inner and outer bearing numbers (numbers will be stamped inside the bearings themselves) this would help narrow down the possibilities too.

Answer 1

In order to determine the torque rating for the lug nuts on your trailer you will need to know check out the chart I attached that shows all of the torque specs for all the trailer lugs available based on stud size, wheel material and wheel size.

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Answer 2

According to Blue Ox, it'll take an experienced installer about 4 to 5 hours to complete the installation of their #BX1128 Base Plate Kit on a 2016 Jeep Grand Cherokee. The install isn't what I'd call super-difficult, but the installation…

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Answer 3

Hi Paul, you’re definitely on the right track here, and I can help you narrow this down with confidence. With your tandem 3,500 lb Dexter axles and 33 inch spacing, both the Dexter EZ Flex part #K71-652-00 and the Lippert Road Armor part #LC53CK are…

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Answer 4

It sounds like you are speaking of the wires for the brake magnets. If this is correct, you will need to connect one of the wires to the brake controller output wire on your trailer connector and the other wire will need to be grounded to a clean…

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Answer 5

The #84 spindle is just a common way to identify the spindle dimensions typically used for 3,500 lb axles. So instead of listing out the parts, people can just say they have #84 spindles and it's easier to know what fits it. The CE Smith Trailer…

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Answer 6

You can use leaf springs that are rated higher than the axle without any issues as long as they measure the correct measurement for your trailer. For example the 6-leaf double eye spring for 7,000 lb axles part #e64SR measures 24-7/8" eye to…

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Answer 7

The two sizes you mentioned are pretty similar and fit many of the same 15 inch wheels. The 205/75-15 fits rim widths of 5 inch to 6 inch whereas the 225/75-15 fits widths that are 5 inch to 6-1/2 inch. The 205 is 27.1 inches tall and the 225 is 28.4…

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Answer 8

That's a very good question, we tend to be extra cautious and say to use 10 gauge wire because that would be more than enough. When you get into longer trailers that will end up using a lot of wire the heavier gauge wire becomes more necessary.…

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Answer 9

The manual lockout on your Atwood 85778 surge brake coupler is there so that you can back up the trailer without the brakes locking up on you. Yes you can safely tow your trailer with the broken manual lockout, you just have to make sure you…

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Answer 10

Thanks for your question, Steve. Installing the Timbren Rear Suspension Enhancement System #T76FR wouldn’t eliminate the need for a weight distribution system if your setup calls for one, they actually serve two different purposes. A weight…

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