How to Determine the Pin Box Manufacturer and Model on a 5th Wheel Trailer

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I am not sure which pin box I have on my trailer. I have a 2006 keystone Challenger 5th wheel 32TKA. Can you help? I am looking to purchase an air ride king pin.

asked by: Andy D

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There should be a sticker or plate on the pin box itself that lists the manufacturer and model of the pin box. If it is not present then there are some measurements you can take to determine the model of the pin box. I have included a link that explains these measurements for you.

Once the pin box is identified we can determine if there is an air ride pin box that will fit.

expert reply by: Michael H

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Jose

6/2/2024

I have telescoping 45 degree I want to put different.. but I don't know .. what can I put .. can you help me with that...

Kevin C.

6/3/2024

@Jose If you're wanting to replace you're pin box we'll need to first know what bolt pattern you have. There's typically a sticker somewhere on the pin box or next to it that lists an RPO#, Serial #, and LCI Item #. If this sticker is missing then you can use the attached guide below to measure for your bolt pattern.

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David

2/19/2025

@KevinC I have a Lippert 18,000 lbs Rota-flex pin box with the following numbers: LCI 802605 RPO-0005449875 I want to swap to a fifth wheel to gooseneck hitch like the Reese Air Ride coupler. Will the Reese goose box fifth wheel to goose neck air ride coupler work for my setup? Thank you.

Kevin C.

2/24/2025

@David Based on the numbers you provided your Rota-Flex has a 1621 bolt pattern and would need the Reese Goose Box 5th-Wheel-to-Gooseneck Air Ride Coupler Adapter # RP85FR. This doesn't come with safety chains so you'll want to pick up some like the # SHK35MR for added safety in the event of a breakaway. Do you have a long bed or will you also need an offset ball to give yourself more turning clearance?

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Answer 1

Hey Shayne, yes the Gen-Y Hitch Nomad 5th Wheel to Gooseneck Pin Box #GY57ND that you referenced would need the included spacers to install in place of a Lippert 1716 pin box as that pin box is 1/2 inch wider. What camper do you have? At this time…

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Answer 2

I spoke with my contact at Trailair and from your serial number we were able to determine that your trailer came with a 1621 HD pin box which is a long pin box style. I was unable to obtain the exact part number for your Trailair pin box but from the…

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Answer 3

Mark, I hear you - those heavy manual sliders are a chore. The important thing to know is that the Gen-Y Nomad doesn’t add any turning clearance. It matches the geometry of a standard fixed pin box, so whatever cab clearance you have today without…

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Answer 4

Hello Levan, thanks for reaching out. Yes, the Gen-Y Hitch Nomad 5th Wheel to Gooseneck Pin Box #GY57ND is made to replace the Lippert 1621 pin box so the bolt hole spacing and dimensions are the same. Your cab and tailgate clearance will be…

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Answer 5

Hey Rick. We have the upgraded model with the air bag that fits a Lippert 1621HD bolt pattern. It's the Shocker Hitch 5th Wheel to Gooseneck Coupler Kit w/ Demco eZ-Latch for Lippert and Rhino Box - 24K item #SHK99YR. Almost an identical setup to…

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Answer 6

The Ram OEM 5th wheel puck system, shown in the linked photo and article, was launched in 2013 so what you have in your truck is likely to be an aftermarket installation of some kind. These newer Ram trucks with the factory prep can directly accept a…

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Answer 7

I spoke with my contact at Lippert and he informed me that the Center Point part #LC1565391 will support a 21,000 lb trailer. That being said, since you have a triple axle trailer you would want the part #LC1565401 instead. Bag failure is extremely…

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Answer 8

Hey Brad, it sounds like you want to install the Lippert Center Point trailair system part #LC1565391 on your 2023 Cyclone 4006 which would not void the warranty.

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Answer 9

Dimensions on most pin boxes are not the same, with the most important differential being the bolt pattern. Your pin box should have sticker on it either on the side or front that will have some serial numbers on it that we can use to identify the…

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Answer 10

Yes, it is! The MORryde item #MR87VR (our part number which is the RPB72-1116) and the Trailair Air Ride 5th Wheel Pin Box item #LC155943 both fit the Lippert 1116 bolt pattern. You will have no problem swapping these pin boxes out on your 2018…

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Answer 11

It's possible you will be able to use the Trailair Air Ride 5th Wheel Pin Box #LC155943 on your 2014 Keystone Cougar High Country, but you will have to determine that pin box on your new Keystone is an 1116. Pin boxes are custom-fit, so it's…

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Answer 12

I was able to physically measure the 5th Airborne Premium Fifth Wheel Air Ride Coupler #5AB-S500-700 for you and from the king pin center to the center of the airbag, the measurement is 6-1/2 inches. From the king pin center to the front pivot is…

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