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Curt Flex Air 5th Wheel Pin Box - Lippert 1621 - 18,000 lbs
Much was learned installing the Curt Air Pin Box. For context this was installed on a 2022 Grand Design 337RLS hitched to a B&W Slider on a 1 Ton SRW GMC. 1) Don't even think about installing this unless you have a forklift. If you are installing this yourself, rent one. United Rentals delivered one to me next day. One day rental, delivery and pickup was ~$723. Five of us using various options including truck tailgate, muscle, engine hoist, and engine stand failed until we used the forklift. The forklift method is also much safer. The Curt Flex Air plus the pallet it is delivered on weighs 290 lbs. Also consider that the Pin Box is intentionally a very tight fit into the RV frame. With a forklift and one person to guide the effort it's very doable. 2) Some of America's road are just not smooth (especially in some sections of I95 in South Carolina). This is arguably one of the best Pin Boxes. It is still not going to take all the chucking and jarring out of the ride. It will improve it. 3) On balance, the Curt Air Pin Box did reduce the harshness of the chucking and jarring. Small jarring is removed. Harsh conditions are softened--which frankly is good for both the RV and the truck. When the road is harsh the truck (even if not towing anything) is jarred, but some of that is no longer carried to the RV frame. You will still feel it in the truck however. Likewise, road harshness under the RV axles are not passed to the truck as harshly. 5) Finding the sweet spot for air inflation will take some trial and error. I had it a little too high originally and incurred additional "bouncing". 6) Put 303 Aerospace Protectant (or similar) on the rubber ring when you apply the same to the rubber seals on your slides. 7) I used the same bolts and washers, but not the same holes in the frame or Pin Box. You will need to measure and assess which you should use based on height requirements and ability to engage the back end of the Curt Air into the frame. I think this is a great product but gave it four stars because: 1) Cost of the Pin Box + Forklift Rental; 2) My expectations on improvement given that cost were unrealistically too high.
I bought the Flex Air to replace the standard Lippert pin box on our Cedar Creek fifth wheel that weighs 12K lbs. Just looking for something to smooth out the ride and the Flex Air seemed to have good reviews and recommendations. I went to the Lippert website to download the installation instructions because I couldn't get the link on the etrailer website to work. The instructions will give you the torque values required for installation and the air pressure for the inflatable airbag on the hitch. Installation was straight forward, but you better have a plan because this thing is heavy (300 lbs) and it will take some manpower to move around and install.
# 2
Curt Air Ride 5th Wheel Pin Box - Lippert 1621 & 1621HD - 21,000 lbs
the fit was perfert. as you can see from the pictures is attached, i drilled a hole in the top to drain water that collects. i fabercated a cover to fit over the opening.
Best upgrade to the 5th wheel you can do. Our first cross country trip and I-40 beat the snot out of us on all the bridge transitions with the stock pin box. Immediately ordered this unit and now it’s like the trailer is floating behind us. I run 65 psi in the airbag. Solid unit and easy installation.
# 3
Curt Flex Air 5th Wheel Pin Box - Lippert 1621 - 21,000 lbs
My wife and I are very pleased with our purchase of this product. We have taken numerous trips with our rig since installing it and what a difference it has made from the standard basic pin box. We no longer feel any chucking from starting off and stopping when towing our trailer. I figured it would definitely reduce it but it eliminated it completely. We tow with a one ton F350 long bed SRW and a B&W hitch. In my opinion It is not a DIY installation because of the sheer weight of the product otherwise I think that it would be. It is not a complicated item to install its just super heavy. In addition to my praise of this product, I would like to recommend the addition of grade eight hardware to be included with the product for installation. I think a few dollars more for the price should more than cover that cost. When it comes down to it the grade five hardware is sub standard for such a massive object in my opinion. It is supporting not only the weight of the pin box but the torque under load as well so for the purpose of safety, which is why we purchased it in the first place the hardware has to come off anyway to take off the old pin box. So why not replace it at the same time. My two cents worth anyway. I would definitely recommend this product to others who are looking to eliminate the chucking felt under a standard fifth wheel pin box.
Well, The hitch was to be delivered on the 23rd. Tforce the company you chose to deliver is located in the Philippines and after speaking to 5 different NON English employees I gave up. So I called the Tforce in Fontana Ca where the hitch is now. NO One answers the phone then after 30+ attempts a female answered and before I could complete my request she transferred my call to an empty line.
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Trailair Rota-Flex 5th Wheel Pin Box - Lippert 1621 or 1621HD - 18,000 lbs
Hannah did an excellent job of working with me to find the correct upgrades for my towing system. 5 stars got her. Tge package arrived with the king pin poking through the box and having deep scratches. I think it will function ok. 3 stars for those handling shipments and deliveries.
No bucking and jerking has made for enjoyable RV experience this year. One of the best investments I've made in our RV. prompt handling and shipping from etrailer made it even better!
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Trailair Air Ride 5th Wheel Pin Box - Lippert 1116 - 21,000 lbs
Freight co delivery estimated for Friday, arrived today. (Tuesday). Borrowed a tractor, dropped the old and lifted this monster into place. 12- 15/16 bolts (originally) 18 hole mount. Not sure if the height is correct for the bed, but will adjust it down if after the rubber bumper is inflated, if it doesn’t sit level. The bolt pattern was correct. better get help! From dropping the MFG lippert, to getting the thing lifted an bolts snugged up, about 45min. Will take a bit longer to attach the deadman switch and electrical box. Well crafted, definitely heavy. This should save my truck n RV from porpoising damage as I’m going over Bridges and bad roads.
We're so anxious to try out our new Curt TrailAir. Installation went smoothly, it looks great. We can hardly wait to experience the ride!
# 6
Curt Flex Air 5th Wheel Pin Box - Lippert Rhino - 21,000 lbs
Delivered intact.
Replaced Rhino with this unit on my Cedar Creek 311RL. It was straight forward and simple, but not easy for this old man to do it solo. Used the tailgate as my shop. Stuck the back up in the air and drove back to insert into the bracket. I then used the levelor on the trailer to line up 2 of the holes to insert the first bolts. I used a car jack near the pin to raise the 230 pound box into line up position to insert the other 8 bolts. Torqued it down and aired it up, then test drove it. Rides like a dream. Much softer on those in the tow vehicle and I assume on the fifth wheel itself. Service from etrailer was good. The advice and recommendations for my specific rig was a little off. But I was able to do research myself. Shipping was timely. Over all another successful etrailer transaction. Thanks to everyone.
# 7
MORryde Cushioned 5th Wheel Pin Box for 14K to 18K Trailers w/ Lippert 1621 and 1621HD
We used to have a lot of slop with our hitch and that has lessened immensely since our purchase of the MORryde pin box.
Product was received as expected. Installation went very well. I am eager to try it out this week on the road!
# 8
Lippert 1621 5th Wheel Pin Box - 15,500 lbs
Hitch king pin box was a perfect fit and installed easily. I just finished hauling the trailer with it on a 5000 mile trip and it worked flawlessly.
First time using etrailer so I wasn't sure what to expect. But they were fast, efficient and keep us updated throughout the shipment. This was a replacement part for a customer shipping their cargo on us to Nome and it had to get here on time, very pleased with the service and follow through. Thanks Tom
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MORryde Cushioned 5th Wheel Pin Box for 18K to 23K Trailers w/ Lippert 1621SHD
I have not installed this part on my 2021 momentum 395MSR yet, but it was received in perfect condition. I had the same pin box on my Solitude390RKR and loved the way it handled. If the part does not perform as expected once installed and after I have some miles behind it i'll update my review.
Installed this MORryde cushioned pin box on a 20K# toyhauler(from a solid pin). Comparing 9K miles before and 11K miles after, it made a remarkable improvement in the ride, especially on choppy, rough roads (think I-40 across New Mexico). Easy bolt-on installation. I consulted with the staff @ etrailer.com to ensure the correct hitch model was selected. Shipping was straight forward via truck freight. Excellent communication through the process.
# 10
MORryde Cushioned 5th Wheel Pin Box for 11.5K to 14K Trailers w/ Lippert 1621 and 1621HD
So far this is a welcome upgrade. Took it on a short trip over some rough road that normally triggers chucking on my F-250. This pinbox prevented it which was a welcome change. I’m looking forward to some longer trips. Installation was straightforward. Removed the old pinbox which was fairly easy. Installing the new pinbox would’ve been a challenge had my buddy not had a forklift attachment for his tractor. I don’t know the exact difference in weight between the old Lippert pinbox and the new Moryde, but it is substantially heavier. I’d say 2 people muscling and one to install the hardware would still be a challenge. Forklift or similar is the way to go. Also, the new pinbox doesn’t come with new hardware. Got to use your old or make a trip to Lowe’s/Home Depot. All and all I’m happy with the upgrade, but I thought it was pricey and don’t like the additional weight.
This cushioned pin box is definitely worth the upgrade. Chucking is greatly reduced (There's no getting totally away from it) and the frequency of the chucking is tempered making the ride much more pleasant. There are times when you forget your towing it's so smooth on decent stretches of road. Delivery was quick (3 days early as a matter of fact) and driver dropped it in my garage. Plus the fitment was perfect, bolted on with no problem. Entire experience was good !!
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MORryde Cushioned 5th Wheel Pin Box for Up to 11.5K Trailers w/ Lippert 1621 and 1621HD
Very great product, took the chucking and jerking out when towing my fifth wheel, would recommend it to anyone, wish I would have gotten it years ago.
Dramatically reduced chucking as hoped. There is more start/stop slop than I had expected but I'm guessing that is due to my trailer being at the top of the weight rating for the rubber block. I need to put a camera on it to verify my theory. All in all a huge improvement.
# 12
Lippert 1621 5th Wheel Pin Box - 21,000 lbs
The product is exactly as described and as shown in the pictures
When I got it, there was like eight or nine scratches the bracket that hooks to your camper that hooks to the plate the lip that bends over was bent up so I had to use a hammer to knock it back down and a couple other places where it was looks like it’s been dropped It’s far from his heart, but it don’t look the best.
# 13
Lippert 1621HD 5th Wheel Pin Box - 18,000 lbs
Appears to be able to meet my needs. The unit arrived as schedule however the shipping box was damaged which was no fault of ETrailer but rather the shipper. Will be installing next week.
pART WAS DELIVERED ON TIME AND EVEYTHING WE ORDER FROM THIS COMPANY THE PRODUCT ARRIVES WHEN WE NEED IT.
# 14
Trailair Air Ride 5th Wheel Pin Box - Lippert 0719 - 18,000 lbs
I just completed a 2800 mile trip after installing the Trail Air Air Ride pin box on my Solitude 5th wheel. I was able to install it myself from the bed of my pickup using a hydraulic bottle jack to lift it into position. I previously made the same trip with the factory installed MORryde Cushioned Pin Box and the Trail Air provides a greatly improved ride. With the MORryde, I encountered several sections of concrete highway that set up a front-to-back oscillation which persisted across many miles. I didn't have that issue with the Trail Air. I didn't order the Flex Air model that also included the flexible block because I was concerned the added height of that pin box would have been a problem. However, after installing the non-flex Trail Air I've found that the other one would have also worked out if I lowered my truck hitch an inch or two. Also worth noting, this pin box is four inches shorter than the 1621 MORryde it replaced. However with a long bed truck I have no clearance issues and can still lower the tailgate when hitched up.
I'm pleased with the pin box. Put it on my 5th. wheel. The airbag gives us a better ride than any other pin box. Its a great product.
# 15
Trailair Air Ride 5th Wheel King Pin - Fabex 730, RBW 7019 - 21,000 lbs
The pin box worked out very well. You still feel the bumps but almost no chucking. My wife likes to sleep in the truck with her head against the head rest, but she could not do that with the old pin box. The only thing that I had to do with the new pin box was drill out the holes because the old pin box had bigger bolts.
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MORryde Cushioned 5th Wheel Pin Box for 14K to 18K Trailers w/ Lippert Rhino
We have gone over 2000 miles and the MoRyde Cushioned 5th Wheel Pin Box fot the Lippert Rhino and it works great!! What a difference it made in pulling my 5th wheel trailer!! It was the best investment I made for my 5th Wheel !! Easy to install if you’re handy! I would highly recommend this product!!
Ordered the Morryde pin box to replace the Rhino pin box on a 2022 Riverstone Reserve. Shipping from Etrailer was right away but had a little delay with the shipment because the semi truck could not get up my road. Taking off the Rhino pin had a little trouble as one of the bolts was cross threaded, which I have read from others also having the same issue. The Morryde came with all the hardware and with two people had it changed out in about an hour. Took it for a small drive and really seems to make a big difference, will get it out for a longer drive soon on my next trip. The new pin box went in the same position as the old one and did not change my level or bed clearance.
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Curt Rota-Flex 5th Wheel Pin Box - Lippert 1116 - 19,000 lbs
It's a great pinbox. Really helped with chucking and compatible with my Demco sliding hitch. Also no issues with delivery, was helped by Pam and Jessie. They are awesome people to work with.
I have had many coach's with this hitch, that is why I am changing out the one currently in the coach to this. UPS delivery sucks. Box was misrouted to another terminal after arriving at the facility near me. Caused an extra day's delay in delivery. When box did finally arrive it was virtually destroyed and driver claimed box showed up open and that they had to retape it this morning ING before delivering it.
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MORryde Cushioned 5th Wheel Pin Box for 18K to 21K Trailers w/ Lippert Rhino
Excellent buying experience. We were able to remove and install the new pin box ourselves. E-trailer’s videos were very helpful as well. Super excited to experience an improved ride.
Entirely better experience towing, my wife and I picked up our 1st 5th wheel toyhauler camper and towing it home it started jerking back n fourth, not knowing what the hell was going on she wanted to return it. I did some research and found this Moryde cushioned pin box and it’s super smooth. We’re both very happy and feel a lot more comfortable towing places.
# 19
MORryde Cushioned 5th Wheel Pin Box for Trailers Over 18K w/ Lippert 1621SHD Trailair
From a rigid pin box to a cushioned pin box big improvement
Easy to install, haven't pulled with it yet so can't say how it works
# 20
MORryde Cushioned 5th Wheel Pin Box for 14K to 18K Trailers w/ Lippert 1116
Nicely made. Great fit and finish. Performance is exactly as described. Dampens jerking a lot.
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