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Timbren Axle-Less Trailer Suspension System with Hubs - 5 on 4-1/2 - Off-Road Tires - 1,200 lbs
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Timbren Trailer Leaf Spring Suspension - A12WS545
- Axle Replacement System
- Axles
- Universal Fit
- 1200 lbs
- Timbren
- 5 on 4-1/2 Inch Hub
The Axle-Less system provides a smooth, quiet, safe ride and can eliminate the need for an axle, allowing for maximum ground clearance and a low deck height. Suspension units replace your existing axle and operate independently. Fits any frame width.
Features:
- Suspension system provides a safe, smooth, quiet ride for your trailer
- 2 Separate units replace your existing axle
- AEON progressive-rate main springs absorb road shock and support trailer's load
- Deliver a smooth, stable ride, regardless of load size
- Compress and become stiffer as load increases, boosting spring strength
- Rebound springs act as return devices to minimize rattle and bottoming out
- Create constant pressure on the arm, so the suspension is never completely relaxed
- 2 Independent units can eliminate the need for a thru axle
- Increase ground clearance
- Lower deck height for easier loading and unloading
- Reduce roll during cornering
- Fit any trailer width
- Built-in camber and toe-in help your trailer to track straight, reducing wear on the tires
- Straight, EZ Lube spindles with hubs accept any 5-bolt wheels with low-pressure, off-road tires
- EZ Lube feature makes it easy to grease bearings without removing the hub
- Spindles can be easily removed from units for simple replacement if damaged
- Bearings, races and seals are included with hub
- Heavy-duty steel construction with black powder coat finish resists wear and corrosion
- Easy to install and align
- Bolt or weld to your trailer's frame
Specs:
- Fits: 1-axle and 2-axle trailers that use low-pressure, off-road tires
- Greater distance between hub face and trailer frame is designed for off-road tires
- Not recommended for triple-axle applications
- Bolt pattern: 5 on 4-1/2"
- Weight capacity: 1,200 lbs
- Quantity: 2 suspension units with hubs
- Spindle/Hub compatibility:
- Bearings: L44649 inner/outer
- Races: L44610 inner/outer
- Seal: 10-60
- 3-Year limited warranty
Note: The Timbren Axle-Less suspension system may require additional support on your trailer. If your trailer does not have a crossmember above the spot where you want to install the Timbren system, you may need to reinforce the frame. You can accomplish this three ways. First, you can retrofit the trailer with a crossmember. Second, you can build out the trailer frame. Third, you can use standard, 2-inch steel tubing to connect the 2 Timbren suspensions together using the built-in square hole on each unit.
Ride on rubber with Timbren's Axle-Less trailer suspension system. This one-of-a-kind suspension consists of two separate units, each containing rugged steel arms and two strong, hollow rubber springs. Overall, the system safely and effectively absorbs road shock, minimizes trailer bounce and rattle - regardless of load size - and helps to protect your trailer's components and cargo. Built-in camber and toe-in keep your trailer tracking straight to minimize tire wear. Integrated hangers attach to your trailer's frame. And 2-inch holes make it easy to reinforce your trailer's frame by adding standard, 2-inch-square steel tubing (if needed).
The Axle-Less independent suspension system replaces your trailer's existing leaf spring suspension and can eliminate the need for an axle. The independent action of the suspension reduces roll when your trailer is cornering and allows you to maximize ground clearance and minimize deck height. Your trailer can have the same side-to-side clearance as your tow vehicle. And the low deck height makes it easy to load cargo from either the rear or the side.
Because you're riding on rubber, your trailer will ride smoothly and comfortably, whether you're navigating rocky terrain or highway asphalt.
Timbren Axle-Less Suspension Parts
- The AEON progressive-rate main spring supports the weight of your trailer and cargo and easily absorbs road shock. It is constructed of heavy-duty, hollow rubber.
- The rebound spring minimizes trailer bounce, rattle and bottoming out. It keeps the suspension under constant tension and ensures that the main spring compresses and expands in a controlled fashion. And it delivers a smooth, stable ride - regardless of how much cargo is on the trailer.
- The trailing arm and integrated hanger attach the suspension to the side and bottom of the trailer frame.
- The control arm carries the spindle and the hub. It pivots on strong, long-lasting urethane bushings that never require lubrication.
- The EZ lube spindle is simple to grease. If damaged, it can be removed and replaced, saving you both time and money.
- The hub accepts any 5-bolt wheel that has a low-pressure, off-road tire.
- The built-in square hole accepts standard 2-inch tubing. If there is no crossmember above the suspension, you can easily add support to your trailer's frame by inserting 2-inch steel tubing through the hole on each suspension unit and then bolting the tubing into place.
Timbren Axle-Less Suspension versus Leaf Springs
The Axle-Less suspension's progressive spring is a definitive upgrade over leaf springs. Although leaf springs deliver a stable ride when supporting a load, a trailer with leaf springs will bounce and rattle when it's empty or supporting a light or off-center load. On the other hand, your trailer can bottom out on bumpy roads if the load is too heavy. The AEON progressive-rate springs of the Axle-Less suspension always deliver the same reliable performance, no matter the load size. As more weight is added to the trailer, the springs compress and become stiffer, offering more support for heavy loads. And because they rebound more slowly than leaf springs, the AEON springs do a better job of absorbing road shock, thereby keeping your trailer from bouncing and rattling when you're carrying a light load. So with this versatile system you will enjoy a smooth ride whether you're towing an empty trailer or a hefty load.
Unlike leaf springs, Timbren's Axle-Less suspension units operate independently of one another. Each spring activates only when needed. This reduces roll and delivers top-notch performance, even when you're hauling off-center loads. When your trailer with leaf springs takes a turn, one side of the suspension compresses and takes on more weight, and the other side becomes looser and bounces. This causes rattle and can make the trailer lean to one side. But when your trailer with the Axle-Less suspension takes a turn, one side compresses and becomes more rigid to absorb the weight, and the other side expands to normal height to help steady the load and minimize bounce and rattle. The load stays better balanced, even if it is off-center.
Timbren Axle-Less Suspension versus Torsion Axles
Timbren's Axle-Less trailer suspension system is a great alternative to torsion axles. While both systems allow either side of the trailer's suspension to operate independently, only Axle-Less suspensions are actually separate units. Torsion axles still require a bar that spans the bottom of your trailer, whereas Timbren's system can eliminate the need for a thru axle - giving you the same amount of ground clearance from the front of your trailer to the rear. It also allows Axle-Less suspensions to fit any trailer width - unlike torsion axles, which have to be fitted to an exact frame width.
Axle-Less suspensions operate in a smoother, less stressful manner than torsion axles. Torsion axles use a twisting motion, where the bar inside the axle tube rolls against rubber cords or a rubber wall to create compression and resistance. The up-and-down motion of the main spring and the side-to-side motion of the rebound spring in Timbren's Axle-Less suspension work together to provide smooth, consistent compression - with no twisting - that results in a better ride and less stress on the suspension's components.
Installing the Timbren Axle-Less Suspension
Whether you are building a trailer or retrofitting your existing trailer with the Axle-Less system, you must make certain that the trailer's frame is both perfectly square and sturdy enough to support a heavy load without the aid of a thru axle.
There are three ways to install the Axle-Less suspension. The easiest method, which is recommended if you are replacing axles on your trailer, is to install a piece of 2-inch-square tubing (sold separately - available at most weld shops) through the integrated hole in the Axle-Less suspension. Then all you need to do is bolt the suspension to the side of the trailer's frame with three bolts (not included).
The second option for installation is to fabricate an inboard extension plate that attaches the trailer's frame to the Axle-Less suspension.
The third method of installation is to bolt the Axle-Less suspension's hanger to the trailer's frame and to an existing crossmember that is in the area where you want to install the suspension.
With both the second and third options, you must use three bolts to attach the suspension to the side of the frame. And you also have to use two or three bolts to attach the suspension to the bottom of the frame extension, or crossmember. Both the second and third methods of installation will eliminate the need for a thru axle and provide the most clearance.
Timbren's Axle-Less suspension units should be installed directly across from one another. Before mounting the units, measure back from the coupler and mark the frame to make sure that the two distance measurements (A and B) are within 1/8 inch of each other. Then you can drill holes through the frame and attach the hangers with Grade-5, half-inch bolts (not included).
Dimensions of the Timbren Axle-Less Suspension
A12WS545 Axleless Trailer Suspension System by Timbren - Hubs with 5 Studs on 4-1/2" Bolt Circle - Wide Tires - 1200 lbs
ASR400S01 Timbren Axle-Less 1200S, P021 Outboard Arm Wide Spindle
88440_2 2500 lb Idler Hubs - 545 1/2" Stud - Qty 2
Video of Timbren Axle-Less Trailer Suspension System with Hubs - 5 on 4-1/2 - Off-Road Tires - 1,200 lbs
Videos are provided as a guide only. Refer to manufacturer installation instructions and specs for complete information.
Video Transcript for Timbren Axle-Less Trailer Suspension System Review
Today we're going to be taking a look at, then we'll show you to install the Timbren Axle-less Trailer Suspension System. These are available in multiple configurations to fit most applications. Just check our website out for details. Today specifically we're going to be using part number ASR3500S05. This is a spindle only configuration for 3,500 pound axles. With the spindle only configuration we're going to be reusing our bearings, we're going to be reusing our brakes and our drums.
You may want to pick up some new seals if you're going to go this route. We also have the full kits available with the brakes, the drums, and everything that you'll need. The Timbren Axle-less Suspension is an excellent, excellent product. You can tell an immediate difference as soon as we start hauling our trailer with the items installed. It's much, much quieter, much smoother, you don't feel the weight in the truck nearly as much as you did with that standard suspension. You can see as we're cornering there's no transfer of weight.
They're working independently to keep our trailer nice and level. Here's what our kit's going to look like installed. This axle-less suspension system from Timbren is kind of a solution for all that noise and everything that we typically get with our trailers; real rough ride. Now, they use 2 rubber springs essentially, they're Aeon rubber springs. We've got our larger one here in the back. This is the main body of the system, and as we load it more and more and more it constantly kind of adapts to that to give us just the ride of support that we need. To keep this constantly under tension so we don't have to ever worry about a lot of that rattling and stuff, we've got a rebound spring right here in the front.
These are designed to work with really any style of trailer frame, no matter of the thickness here. Depending on the application if you've got a really wide trailer, well then you're just going to put the 3 bolts in the side, 3 bolts up through the bottom. We're dealing with a little bit narrower angle channel here, so what we've done is we've put the square tube across the front. You could also design a bracket to go on the side, if you wanted like a gusseted bracket. There's a lot of options out there. We went with the spindle only design.
It's really heavy duty, too. You can really tell about the quality that they've put into the design of it. Going to have a black powder coat finish on all of our surfaces and this real nice thick steel fully welded around all of our points with reinforcement gussets right where we want them. You can just tell it's a really well built system. Another advantage that we're going to see with the axle-less suspension is going to be increased ground clearance. We don't have that axle that typically hangs down here lower. Even with us using the cross tube design or the cross bracing design, it's tucked up right underneath of our trailer. It's even up higher than what our cross members are here for our flooring, so really tucks it up. Then this area down here, you can see smooths off. The axle-less suspension system can also help us with getting our deck height of our trailer where we want it. These are available in both drops and lifts. One of the added benefits that we get out of this axle-less system is that we're not tying this side of the trailer to that side of the trailer with one of those through axles that are going to go right through down here where all our movement's going to actually take place. This allows these to work independently of one another. If we hit a bump on that side it doesn't transfer all the way over here and then cause this side to go too. Now, they've set this up with tow and camber adjustments aligned 00:04:02 already, so we should have great tire wear as we track down the road. However, if need be they do provide us with some nice alignment shims here if we do want to change it up a little bit, or maybe our trailer's frame wasn't exactly square. Another great thing about the Timbren Axle-less Suspension set up is that they use urethane bushings here at our pivot point. It's going to be very very long lasting. It's going to keep everything nice and tight, and we don't have to worry about lubrication. To begin our installation we need to get our factory axle out. Now if you are going to reusing hardware off of the original axle it's best to do it when it's still on the trailer. That way you're not fighting the roll. All right, now you'll notice here on the frame of our trailer, this is our rear spring perch. We've removed the front to allow room. You may have to do that on yours, and there was a couple welds here and then here that kind of stuck out on the frame rail. We've gotten rid of those. Just use a grinder, get it nice and clean. We want a nice smooth surface for this to mount up against. We're going to mock it up now just by bringing this edge up and letting it sit on our trailer. You can see the 3 holes we're going to use for attachment. Now the key to getting this set up properly, you can see we've got some plumb bobs here. Basically it's just a string with a nut tied to the end of it. We've gone off of both of our spindles here in the same location, and then we've gone from the center of our coupler in the front so we've got them at 3 locations. Now we're going to measure from that string back to this string, and then we'll measure from the front over to the other side. It's very important for us to have these within an 1/8 of an inch. What this means is that we've got the perfect triangle from the coupler back to each of our spindles. We won't have to worry about any kind of side tracking. It's going to keep our trailer running straight behind us, and it's going to make sure that we're getting proper tire wear. Adjust as necessary. We want to make sure if you're using plumb bobs that your trailer's level. After that it's just a matter of getting them lined up to where they're going to be just right. We'll measure, mock it up, measure, mock it up, and then once we have it right where we want it we can get our holes drilled. Now we want to take a punch and I'm going to mark the middle of my rear hole. Then we can start stepping up to a 1/2 inch hole diameter is what we want to end up with. We start with just an 1/8 inch and then kind of move up as we go. All right, that created a little too much movement, so we want to get this hole drilled perfectly to get that suspension out of the way and get our hole drilled out. We'll bring it up, slide our bolt through the hole there, and then put our hardware on the inside. That's going to do a good job of holding that in place while we get the rest of our holes marked. I'm going to use a jack stand again here just to apply some upward pressure. I'm going to tighten this nut down temporarily. That's going to draw it right over into position we want to make sure it's pressed up firmly all the way in the front. We don't want any kind of gaping between the top of our enhancement here and the bottom side of our trailer. Now we can use our center punch or our 1/2 inch bit here and get the center of our holes marked. You see I've already mocked up what would be the passenger side of the trailer. Anything I do on this side, I'll do the exact same thing on the other side. Now we're ready to get these pulled down and we'll get our holes drilled out. All right, now with those holes drilled out let's get our suspension back up into place here. What I want to do is just get these 3 started and I'm going to get them snugged down. This isn't a permanent mount, so we don't want to torque them all down. We've got to measure for that cross tube. We're going to be using this opening here for a 2 inch by 2 inch cross tube section that's going to give us additional strength. There's a few options on the additional strengthening process that you can check out in the instructions. That's mainly for just like the trailer that we've got here, just your simple utility trailer that just has an angle iron frame. If you see channels and things like that, typically once we're putting these on the heavy-dutier trailers there's going to be plenty of thickness in the frame. You really don't have to worry about having that cross tube. Now to figure out how long of a pipe that we're going to need here we're just going to measure inside to inside. There's going to be a couple little lips there. Right here there's a little bit of a lip. We just want our pipes to sit just inside of those, and we'll want our square tube to fit right inside of that. Now with our pipe cut to size all we'll need to do is slide it in all the way across, and we'll want to make sure that it engages our other side as well. All right, that's held in place there kind of by those little lips we saw in each end. We need to get our bolt holes here marked so we can drill our holes and install our hardware. Those should be marked so let's pull our tube back out of there, get those holes drilled, and we can put it back in. Now we can get our center punches taken care of here. Just like before we'll just step up our bit size as we go, makes it a little bit easier. Now with the tube back in we'll take our hardware, got kind of a tight squeeze here but we're just going to place that through. Place that flat washer inside of there on the bolt, then we need to get our nut started. One of these little flexible magnets is a really good way that bolts quite a ways back in there. If you've got a different method that works for you, great. My fingers won't reach in there. Maybe a pair of needle-nose you could get to work in there. These little magnets are pretty readily available and pretty handy to have, so that would be my recommendation. We'll just leave that one loosely installed. Now we're going to take our other bolt, we want to place it through both of our holes but we don't want to have it poked all the way through. What we're going to do is have that stay there as we get our spindles torqued down, as we get our brackets to our frame torqued down. Then we'll torque down our inside bolt, then we'll be able to get to this and torque this down. We'll just at that point either thread it in by hand or with a wrench, put our stuff on it and get it torqued. If we we're to leave this out completely so we could get to that back bolt, it's likely that our holes would then be slightly misaligned and it would be real difficult to get it in. Now we want to look in the instructions and find our torque specifications and we want to go through and torque everything down in the appropriate order to those specifications. I had these pretty snug when we we're doing the install just so we wouldn't have to worry about any movement or anything with the spindle. With those done we'll move up to the 3 here in the side. Once those are properly torqued we'll go to the ones that we've got inside of our tube. With everything torqued down that's really all there is to the install. I would here on this cut piece of tubing, just a little bit of black spray paint there. Just kind of seal that up, prevent any rusting there. Then, depending on your set up if you're using, if this is on a braking axle then you'll put your brakes back on your flange and then rebuild your hub per the instructions. If this is on a lighter-duty trailer and if you don't have brakes then you're just going to rebuild your idler here. Good time to replace the seals, repack the bearings, inspect those bearings, or just order a new kit to fit right on here and then you'll know you're going to be safe as you go down the road. All right, now we'll lower it down until the tires touch the ground and you'll want to be sure to use a torque wrench and get all of your lugs torqued down appropriately. That's going to complete our look at the line of the Timbren Axle-less Trailer Suspension Systems.
Customer Reviews
Timbren Axle-Less Trailer Suspension System with Hubs - 5 on 4-1/2 - Off-Road Tires - 1,200 lbs - A12WS545
Average Customer Rating: 4.5 out of 5 stars (115 Customer Reviews)
The Axle-Less system provides a smooth, quiet, safe ride and can eliminate the need for an axle, allowing for maximum ground clearance and a low deck height. Suspension units replace your existing axle and operate independently. Fits any frame width.
- A12WS545
by: Mustang05/31/2016
I am pleased with the Timbren Axle-Less Trailer Suspension System with Hubs - 5 on 4-1/2 - Off-Road Tires - 1,200 lbs. I had a project and it worked out just fine. 254872
- A12WS545
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by: Kelly F11/07/2018
Purchased 2 sets of the Timbren 1200 Axle-less systems for upgrading the suspension on an older 30' ft glider trailer. Single axle with small (13") tires made towing tough due to porpoising, dragging on drive entrances do to poor flotation; also German made and metric, no repair parts. GVW 2000 lbs equated to bouncy ride. Dual sets now allow the trailer to ride over bumps and sharp inclines easily, smoothly, little bounce on country roads; porpoising is history. My glider now rides securely, safely, quietly. Install time 4 1/2 hours (includes head-scratching). Results are outstanding, units are totally solid. Recommend the square tube interconnect, easy and quick - trailer frame was on the light side, so a precautionary fix. Clean look underneath. Ordered 5 wheels w/tires, very nice. Helpful neighbor so impressed he ordered a HD single set for his new DIY snowmobile trailer. Customer satisfaction 100%, from phone order, online support, product information, immediate shipping, install instructions, followup... HIGHLY RECOMMENDED! 580744
Comments
I have just a little more to add regarding my purchase: Two sets, of the Timbren Axle-less assemblies, 1200 lb, and 5 wheels. I placed the order via phone, and whoever was on-call that day provided great answers and recommendations regarding the units, wheels and tires. At 31 feet, the trailer originally exhibited amplified porpoising on any bumps or dips in the road. Also bouncing and occasional sideways tipping due to the single axle. It made a lot of noise on my mountain community washboards. I speculated that the Timbren units would solve most, if not all of these problems and they have. Installation on my older 31 ft European ie, metric and no longer manufactured glider trailer was a mere 4.5 hours from removal of the old single axle to setting the trailer back down on its new assemblies. Instructions are complete, precise, useful and helpful. Appreciated. Little to comment on as installation was all straight-forward. I would like to describe the maiden voyage to the airport and back, but there is nothing to tell, other than it towed beautifully proper alignment instructions, and all that I viewed from the rear view mirror looked like a magic carpet ride. It rides over washboards and pot holes like a marathon hurdler, the 4-wheel independent suspension is great. Packaging: the shipping boxes all arrived in good condition, but the cardboard component boxes inside them... not so much. Most were ripped and open due to heavy components lightly surrounded with brown packing paper, just token amounts. Parts: all was accounted for minus a pair of spindle axle washers for one set, easily replaced at the local farm and ranch supply. No squawk, just an fyi. I am very pleased with your product and support, and was happy to leave a 5-star review with photos. The upgraded suspension was also a topic this past weekend at the glider port by those who regularly trailer their ships to various soaring events, some as far as a thousand miles away. My compliments to eTrailers, hope you can use my info,
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by: John04/13/2019
Good product and easy to install on my new build of a off road trailer for my side by side. Thanks 628307
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by: Walt G07/03/2015
The product got here in great time delivered on time as said. But I had problems with the square hole in two of the suspension brackets -- the had one side of the inside tube that had a large radius that won't fit the square tubing you are going to slide through it. I spent a lot of time trimming the bracket and rounding off the tubing I need to install. I live in a residential neighbor hood and working early in the morning. Fitting the tubing in the hole it gets wedged in and I had to pound it in to get the fit needed. Too noisy and it should fit to start with. If a person knows he is going to use this square hole in assembly then the seller needs to send the brackets that fit properly. I have to build a sub frame for this small trailer because the shelving tubing I am using for the deck is too light of gauge to put the suspension system directly too. And I had to chase the threads on one of the spindles because I couldn't turn the nut with channel locks to adjust the bearing to fit. Hope the rest of the assembly goes easier. Still got lots work to do but too hot in after noon. 209085
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by: Heath03/05/2018
Everything looks good so far just opened the boxes. 481425
- A12WS545
by: David L.10/18/2017
Work great no bounce 443935
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by: Offroad trailer10/12/2017
Extremely fast delivery! Still building but excited to get these bad boys mounted and the trailer bouncing boulders with us! 442127
- A12WS545
by: Jeremy F.10/29/2016
This place shipped fast and product arrived sooner than I expected! The item was exactly as described and packaged very well. I would recommend etrailer.com to anyone building or repairing. 311848
- A12WS545
by: Bob S.01/21/2016
This review is limited to eTrailer customer service since I have not yet installed the suspension. The part I ordered was out of stock when my order was placed. An eTrailer representative notified me both by email and by phone informing me of the situation and offering direct shipment from the manufacturer in the event time was an issue. While time was not an issue for me, I was impressed eTrailer took such a proactive approach in dealing with the stock out. Additionally, despite the item being out of stock, i did still receive it in a timely matter (~2 weeks). 235933
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by: Austin S11/10/2015
First off let me say these axles are EXCELLENT mainly because of their very good design. From what i can tell Timbren is a 9/10 manufacturer. Welds are fantastic(im a professional welder) and this thing is HEAVY DUTY THICK STEEL. Only defect was some paint scratched and one of my grease fittings came right out when i was done greaseing the joint.I welded these up to my custom fabricated trailer and they are just amazing. I would urge anyone to get Timbren suspensions over leaf spring/torsion ANY DAY.. 231681
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PhilTreeMan - 11/20/2019
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by: PhilTreeMan11/12/2018
Review from a similar Timbren Axle-Less in Trailer Leaf Spring Suspension
I installed these on a small jeep style camping trailer that I built. I plated my frame and also used the suggested two inch square tubing to tie them together. It rides very well, looks like it should be very durable, it's a simple design, simple to install, more economical than other independent systems, has less parts to go bad than other systems, I would highly recommend to any body using a trailer on rough roads! 582196
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We just drove 1200 miles mostly at 75mph. The axles work very well in all conditions, trailer ride very smoothly.
PhilTreeMan - 11/20/201963425
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by: Lance12/29/2018
Review from a similar Timbren Axle-Less in Trailer Leaf Spring Suspension
Extremely good product. Rides much better than traditional leaf springs. Ordering. A 7,000lb 8 lug set for the big trailer. 593860
- ASR3500S06
by: Bashore Safe & Vault07/13/2016
Review from a similar Timbren Axle-Less in Trailer Leaf Spring Suspension
The suspension I ordered is of high quality and I received it sooner than I expected , its good to do business with a company that produces its products so fast. 271528
- A20RS545
by: Moe12/19/2016
Review from a similar Timbren Axle-Less in Trailer Leaf Spring Suspension
Built very rugged. I am glad this is available because all the 2K axles I found were not wide enough for my application. This setup allowed me to keep expenses down and build the trailer I wanted. 326161
- ASR3500S06
by: Marty07/01/2015
Review from a similar Timbren Axle-Less in Trailer Leaf Spring Suspension
Only been driving around on the axle-less system for about a week now and it has far exceeded expectations. I get better gas mileage, my trailer now sits like it was intended to, my trailer doesn't bounce like it used to, I wouldn't trade this axle system for any other. Just wish I would have known which outboard assembly arm my trailer needed with the axle-less system before I placed my order. Still not a problem though, plan on using the wrong outboard arm to build a different trailer. So far, a great product! 208571
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by: mark klunder08/21/2016
Review from a similar Timbren Axle-Less in Trailer Leaf Spring Suspension
Great looking parts, robust design, professional looking welds....Nothing missing... I contacted Timbren prior to my purchase and received a prompt, helpful reply... The supplied instructions are complete and straight forward, i'm confident should i have any issues, contacting them will get them resolved... 286117
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Mike L - 11/21/2018
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by: Phillip11/21/2018
Review from a similar Timbren Axle-Less in Trailer Leaf Spring Suspension
Timbren Axle-Less Suspension - Spindle Only - Regular Tires - 5200 lbs Item # ASR5200S01 Looks great on empty trailer, idea is good, bad execution. When loaded tires "splay out" severely, excessive tire wear, obviously too much play in system somewhere. 584361
Comments
Excessive camber which causes wear on the portion of the tire tread closest to the trailer can be caused by a few different things. 1 The axle-less suspension system has a 5200 lb per set capacity, so youll want to be sure this amount is not being exceeded. 2 The surface of the trailer that the suspension member is added to needs to be an integral part of the trailer that should have NO give in it whatsoever. Any flexing of the side member there will throw off the camber of the tires. I have seen what you describe occur when the suspension system has been mounted to tubular steel that made up the edge of the trailer frame. In that instance, some angle iron was added to stiffen things up. 3 Its not required, but a piece of 2x3 inch tube steel of the appropriate length can be used as a beam connecting the two sides, utilizing the existing hole in the axle-less suspension member. This will help stiffen things up. 4 The suspension system should have included some shims that can be used where the spindle attaches to the suspension portion of the assembly. Using these shims can decrease the camber, but only if the points mentioned above are taken care of. Ive checked with Timbren regarding the above, and they concur.
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Mike L - 11/21/201845920
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by: John, Sheridan, Wyoming03/16/2015
Review from a similar Timbren Axle-Less in Trailer Leaf Spring Suspension
I was amazed at the attention given to me and my order. I was kept up to date untill my order arrived, it also arrived a few days before the expected time. The axle less system looks to be so much easier to install and more functional than the regular spring suspension. If compared by cost and labor to the other spring system, I find that this is considerably less. I have yet to install it, but will send photo of finished product as soon as possible. 178367
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by: Doug p06/21/2016
Review from a similar Timbren Axle-Less in Trailer Leaf Spring Suspension
Had a broken torsion axle on dual axle boat trailer. Manufacter six to eight weeks to replace. Got this product in week. Installed same day. Very happy .cancelled new Axel order. 263087
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by: Richard s12/27/2018
Review from a similar Timbren Axle-Less in Trailer Leaf Spring Suspension
A little bit pricey, at first. But in the long run they are cheaper. We used to bend or break an axle every 3 or 4 months. But we have had these a couple of years now with no problems. One thing that is nice is on a tandem axle set up you can get a flat and you just have to take the wheel off and run on 3 or 2 wheels without the hubs hitting the ground. 593458
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by: Greentree Automotive11/12/2016
Review from a similar Timbren Axle-Less in Trailer Leaf Spring Suspension
We buy a number of things from E trailer and have always found there support and online cataloging very helpfull. 318927
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by: Dana08/21/2018
Review from a similar Timbren Axle-Less in Trailer Leaf Spring Suspension
Everything was as advertised! Fast shipping and well packaged! And good quality. And the best part, they respond very fast to my emails!! very nice! Don't think all be using my local retailers anymore. 556069
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by: Andrew H.07/24/2017
Review from a similar Timbren Axle-Less in Trailer Leaf Spring Suspension
This is my favorite suspension system in all the world! Rides like an absolute dream. Easy to set up and install. Works on any trailer frame size. One thing to know: You don't get the ride height you get with a standard leaf spring suspension. Even with 15-inch wheels, the ride height is pretty low - maybe 10-12 inches of ground clearance to the bottom of the main trailer frame. If you need more ride height, get the lifted version. A few areas of possible improvement? It's difficult to bolt the suspension unit to a crossmember using the middle bolted hole, which uses a tacked-on weld nut. You have zero room for error when drilling the hole through your cross member, and you can't really use the suspension as a template. Hmmm ... also, the hanger plate mounting holes are positioned 1-inch from the bottom of the trailer frame. That makes it very difficult, since I use channel side rails, to use standard 1/2-inch USS or SAE washers on the backside. There isn't room. Just an extra 1/4 of a inch would allow me to use standard washers underneath the nuts on a channel frame. Nitpicking aside, it's amazing. 410020
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by: Matt N02/01/2015
Review from a similar Timbren Axle-Less in Trailer Leaf Spring Suspension
Excellent, helpful customer service sold me this product, and trust me when I say it's worth the price tag. Pulled the old axle and leaf spring off a 60's era Bantam and swapped out for this with a support bar in between. Bumped up tires to 315/75r16 BFG TA/KO's to match my rig and am amazed at how much better this trailer now pulls. Empty it wad bouncing all over the place with the old axle and leaf spring setup. Now I hardly even know it's there. Was very easy to install, took a couple hours but I am happy with how it turned out. A+++ product and customer service! 172019
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HI Matt,WHat size wheel did you use and which hub did you get to match?Appreciate the info
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They are GREAT! I put them on a small offroad trailer that has followed me all over some really rough roads in remote Oregon, Washington, and Idaho. They have performed flawlessly, helped the trailer tow extremely well, and were the single best upgrade I did to that trailer. Very much looking forward to another summer of exploring! Massive upgrade to the stock axle leaf spring combo, and I have had the opportunity to show it off to alot of fellow overlanders. I cant speak high enough of them. I also purchased a set of airbags for my vehicle which unfortunately have not held up terribly well. I have had to field repair one once already, and neither holds air terribly well. Truth be told they seem very underdesigned for the job they perform. From my super secret high tech pocket internet window.
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by: Douglas McLaughlin06/12/2015
Review from a similar Timbren Axle-Less in Trailer Leaf Spring Suspension
not happy with one lug nut missing threads!!! but I think they also could supply the wedge plate! the horizontal holes never change and the lower vertical should be slots. for the money I shouldn't have to make a plate. 202996
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- Is There a Timbren Axle Less Kit Setup that Fits Jeep Wheel Bolt Pattern 5 on 5 inchWe have to tell you that you shouldn't use Jeep wheels on a trailer as they weren't intended for use on a trailer. That said we know people do this all the time so you'd probably be fine. We've seen people use the Timbren Axle Less kits with Jeep Wheels too. Part of why the Timbren Axle-Less Trailer Suspension System with Hubs # A12WS545 is for "off road" tires is for this purpose so it's physically possible. The Jeep wheel bolt pattern is 5 on 5 inch like what the part # 84550BX has....
view full answer... - Finding Replacement Axle For Jet Ski TrailerThe closest standard axle we have available to the dimensions that you mentioned is the CE Smith Trailer Axle Beam # CE33201GA. This galvanized trailer axle has a spring center measurement of 46-1/2 inches and a hub face measurement of 57-1/2 inches. It has an overall length of 62 inches. Since we do not have a standard axle that meets the dimensions you are looking for, another option is an Axle-Less system like the Timbren Trailer Suspension System # A12WS545. This system will provide...
view full answer... - Wheel Recommendation for Timbren Axle-Less Trailer Suspension System # A12WS545After doing some research on the 2011 Jeep Wrangler, it appears the bolt pattern of the OEM wheels is 5 on 5 inches. If that is the case, they will not be compatible with the hubs that come with the Timbren Axle-Less Trailer Suspension System, # A12WS545, that you referenced in your question. The hubs and spindles included are designed for 5 on 4-1/2 bolt patterns. If you are unsure of your wheel's bolt pattern, I have included a helpful article that explains how to measure this. I do...
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- Can Timbren Axle-Less Trailer Suspension Rubber Springs Be Replaced to Increase Weight RatingThank you for your purchase last year of a Timbren Axle-Less Trailer Suspension System with Hubs, part # A12WS545. This system is rated for 1200-lbs overall weight capacity. If you are exceeding the system's capacity you can, according to my contact at Timbren, replace the main compression spring with a heavier-rated unit, part # A00100-55000, which will increase the system's rating to 2000-lbs.
view full answer... - Can Built-In Camber be Adjusted on Timbren Axle-Less Trailer Suspension System with Hubs When installing the Timbren Axle-Less Trailer Suspension System with Hubs # A12WS545 referenced in your question, the toe-in will need to be set. However, the system does include shims that will allow you to adjust the camber as needed. I have attached an installation video on this product for you to check out. Right around the 4 minute mark you can see this feature explained. This is a great axle-less suspension system with a weight capacity of 1,200 pounds and a bolt pattern of 5...
view full answer... - Small Gap Between Trailer Frame and Timbren Axle-Less System After InstallationThe weight of the trailer itself will slightly compress the rubber springs on the Timbren Axle-Less suspension systems such as # A12WS545. Since the gap is so small redrilling the holes won't help. Your best option is to use appropriately sized steel plates between the trailer frame and the Timbren system to close that gap.
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- Dimensions of Timbren Axle-Less Trailer Suspension # A12WS545 For Utility and Motorcycle TrailerUnfortunately there is not a 3D step model available for the Timbren Axle-Less Trailer Suspension System with Hubs - 5 on 4-1/2 - Off-Road Tires - 1,200 lbs # A12WS545. I've attached the diagrams that will help you with the dimensions for the unit to assist. I've also attached a video and the link to the product that does have a 360 degree photo to assist. This system will work well for the small utility and motorcycle trailers you mentioned. I've also attached an article to assist...
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- How Much Clearance Is Needed For Tires When Installing Timbren Axle-Less System Under TrailerI called my contact at Timbren to get some information for you about the axle-less systems. For the 1,200-lb systems the distance from the center of the spindle to the underside of the frame where the bracket mounts it is 2-5/8 inches. And for these systems they have a deflection of 2-1/8 inches. I have attached a drawing that shows these dimensions you can check out. You will want at least an inch over the deflection distance. There is no hard rule because it depends on the road conditions...
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- Timbren Axle-Less Suspension System for a Tear Drop Trailer BuildTrailer tires are constructed differently than vehicle tires and you can't use one on the other. Trailer tires are built with a thicker sidewall to handle more vertical load where as vehicle tires are not. The wheels are not as big of an issue but the problem is that vehicle wheels usually have an offset to move them either closer to or further from the body. The vast majority of trailer wheels have no offset so vehicle wheels are not a good idea on a trailer. If you go with Timbren...
view full answer... - Comparing The Timbren Axle-Less Trailer Suspension System To The FlexiRide Half Torsion Axle SystemFor an off road overland trailer, I recommend you go with the Timbren Axle-Less Trailer Suspension System with Hubs - 5 on 4-1/2 - Off-Road Tires - 1,200 lbs # A12WS545 and not just because we carry them...as I know seems like a conflict of interest. The Flexiride system even with a 1,400 lb capacity is not made for off road and the suspension is a torsion system with rubber cartridge on each side. The Timbren system uses more of a jounce style bumper that the company is known for regarding...
view full answer... - What is Weight Capacity of Timbren Axle-Less Trailer Suspension System # A12WS545The 1,200 lb capacity of the Timbren Axle-Less Trailer Suspension System # A12WS545 is the axle capacity so it's the capacity of both sides together. I attached a link to a review video for this kit for you to check out as well.
view full answer... - Wall Thickness Recommendation for Square Tubing Support For Timbren Axle-Less SuspensionIf I were installing the Timbren Axle-Less Suspension System, # A12WS545, on my trailer, I would use a 2 inch steel tubing with a wall thickness of 1/4 inch. I spoke with my contact at Timbren and he told me that they do not have a minimum thickness that they require as long as it was a 2 inch steel square tube. It is recommended that you add this tube if your trailer does not have a crossmember above the suspension and 1/4 inch is a common wall thickness for a 2 inch square axle.
view full answer... - Recommended Trailer Axle For Haul Master 4x8 Foot TrailerReplacing your existing axle with the Dexter Trailer Axle with Idler Hubs - 5 on 4-1/2 Bolt Pattern - 60" Long - 2,000 lbs # 20545I-ST-60-15 or Dexter Trailer Axle with Idler Hubs - 4 on 4 Bolt Pattern - 60" Long - 2,000 lbs # 20440I-ST-60 will work fine as long as the Hub-face-to-hub-face length is 60 inches and spring-center-to-spring-center length is 48 inches. This will give you a higher capacity axle but you will still be limited to whatever weight capacity the weakest component of...
view full answer... - Will a Kenda 215/60-8 Bias Trailer Tire and Wheel Fit the Timbren Axle-Less System part # A12WS545Yes, the Kenda 215/60-8 Bias Trailer Tire with 8" White Wheel # AM3H310 is going to fit on the Timbren Axle-Less System part # A12WS545. If you check out the picture I attached you will see that when the Timbren is installed you will have a distance of 6-7/8 inches from the hub face to the trailer frame and the backspacing of the # AM3H310 is 4 inches so there would be more than enough clearance.
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- How Much Does the Axleless Timbren Suspension System A12WS545 Compress When LoadedThe amount of deflection, or travel, that the Timbren axle less kit part # A12WS545 has is 2-1/8 inches I attached a picture that shows this as well.
view full answer... - Timbren Axle-Less Trailer Suspension and Hubs with 5 on 5 Bolt PatternIn order to use idler hubs that have a 5 on 5 bolt pattern you would have to use Timbren Axle-Less system # ASR3500S05. Then you could add 2 of hub # 84550UC1-EZ. But the Timbren system is rated for 3,500 pounds which will be stiffer than the 2,000 pound model # A12WS545. If you can go with a 3,500 system then this is the best option. None of the hubs with 5 on 5 bolt pattern will fit the 2,000 pound Timbren systems.
view full answer... - Is The Timbren Axle-Less Suspension System Equipped For Use On HighwayThe Timbren Axle-Less Suspension Systems are great for both off and on road use. You can certainly use them on the highway. In order to have the 5 lug wheel bolt pattern you want, I recommend the Timbren Axle-Less Trailer Suspension System with Hubs # A12WS545 that you referenced. Because of the differences between the weight capacity of the suspension system and the weight of the cargo you plan to carry, there will likely still be some trailer bounce, as the system will not eliminate...
view full answer... - Available Trailer Axle Kits for Lightweight Offroad Tear Trailer BuildWe offer both standard beam axles and axle-less trailer suspension kits from Timbren, some of which come complete with electric drum brakes and hubs in a 3500-lb rating. But in your lower-capacity requirement we do not have complete axle kits with brakes since often such lighter trailers do not require brakes. This can vary by state but you might want to check whether you even need to install brakes for a trailer of the weight you are planning to build. For a complete 1800-lb beam axle...
view full answer... - Timbren Axle-Less Suspension for 10,000 Pound Mobile Hydraulic LiftA tow-behind hydraulic lift is going to need to be stable so I recommend using a tandem axle set up just like you mentioned. That would equate to using 2 sets of Timbren Axle-Less systems rated for 5,200 pounds for a total capacity of 10,400 pounds. We have a couple of options in this capacity: # ASR5200S01 has regular spindles; no rise or drop, and # ASR5200S04 has a 4 inch drop spindle meaning that it will lower the trailer by 4 inches. For a hub and drum assembly that will fit...
view full answer... - Replacement Grease Seal for the Timbren Axle Less System part # A12WS545 The correct grease seal you would need for your Timbren Axle Less System part # A12WS545 that you have is the # 10-9.
view full answer... - Replacement Hub Assemblies for Mobile Home Style AxleThe hub assemblies we currently have available that use the # 25580 inner bearing and # LM67048 outer bearing all have 6 bolt patterns. There is not a hub available that will fit your existing spindles and allow you to convert to a more standard 5 bolt pattern. To change to 5 bolt hubs on your trailer, you will need to replace the axles. Mobile home axles are actually only designed for one-time use while moving a mobile home and meant to be discarded after that. We have a large selection...
view full answer... - Can the Axle or Spindles be Replaced on a 1,000 Pound Harbor Freight TrailerI do have a solution for you but we have only the most common size straight axles. Also you may be able to remove the spindles on your current axle but any new ones would have to be welded on by a professional with experience with this kind of trailer work. What I recommend is to use Timbren Axle-less system # A12WS545. You would use this set in place of a traditional axle and leaf spring suspension. The benefits are better ground clearance, less maintenance, and much fewer parts that...
view full answer... - Trailer Axle Recommendation for an ATV TrailerFor an offroad trailer like you described I would recommend a Timbren Axle-Less system like the part # A12WS545 would be a great choice. This is a 1,200 lb axle that depending on how much you plan on towing in the trailer might be more than enough by itself and wouldn't require a second axle. This system comes with the suspension, the spindle, and the hubs all together. Also, this system will give great ground clearance since there doesn't need to be an axle running between the two sides.
view full answer... - Shipping Weight of Timbren Axle-Less Trailer Suspension System with Hubs A12WS545Timbren Axle-Less Trailer Suspension System with Hubs # A12WS545 has a shipping weight of 72-lbs. Figure about 3 or 4-lbs of that will be packing materials. All of our items have a shipping weight shown, just above the yellow "ADD TO CART" button.
view full answer... - Recommended Axle-Less Suspension For Off-Road Trailer The Timbren axle-less systems do accept standard size hubs. The axle-less systems we offer jump from a 400-lb to a 1,200-lb or larger. To make it easier you may want to consider an axle-less system that has the hubs included. The # ASR400S01 system you came from is designed for off-road tires and will work with an idler hub like part # 8-91-05UC1-EZ. The # # 8-91-05UC1-EZ comes with the bearings, races, seal, grease cap, wheel bolts and lug nuts included. The axle-less system with hubs...
view full answer... - Installing Timbren Axle-Less Suspension System on Older TrailerThe Timbren Axle-Less Trailer Suspension System # A12WS545 referenced in your question can certainly be installed on your older trailer to replace its single axle. The suspension units will fit any frame width and they feature a weight capacity of 1,200 pounds. They cannot really be adjusted but because of how they are designed, they will definitely provide a smoother, quieter ride than what you have gotten used to. The AEON progressive-rate springs will also absorb road shock and better...
view full answer... - Replacement Trailer Idler Hub That Uses L68149 Inner and Outer Bearings and 5-on-4-1/2 Bolt PatternWe do offer a range of replacement trailer hub assemblies that use the L68149 bearing as their inner bearing and that have the 5-on-4-1/2-inch bolt pattern. All can be seen on the link at right. However, none of these 16 hubs uses that same bearing as its outer bearing - all use an L44649 outer bearing. You may find it easier to replace the entire axle and hubs with new and readily available items. We do offer axles alone, axles with complete hub/bearings kits and axle-less suspension...
view full answer... - Available Trailer Axles and Axle-Less Suspension Systems from TimbrenWe can help you with a new axle for your folding trailer but do please keep in mind that changing the axle to a higher-rated one does not necessarily increase any of the trailer's rated capacities. Unless you know for certain that the axle is the "weakest-link" in the whole trailer, changing the axle may not actually give you any more weight capacity. For example, if the trailer deck had a lower rating than the axle then upgrading the axle will not add capacity. Similarly, changing wheels...
view full answer... - Recommended Axle for a Trailer and Cargo Weighing 800 lbsTo determine if an axle will fit your trailer you will first need to the (A) hub-face-to-hub-face measurement and the (B) spring-center-to-spring-center measurement (see attached picture). Since this is the standard measurement for axles it will help you determine what axle you will need from our selection of axles that use the standard leaf spring suspension which has been linked for you to filter through. A great alternative option that takes a lot of the guesswork and calculating...
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