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Curt Spyder Gooseneck Trailer Hitch for Fifth Wheel Rails, 25,000 lbs GTW

Curt Spyder Gooseneck Trailer Hitch for Fifth Wheel Rails, 25,000 lbs GTW

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Curt Gooseneck Hitch - 16085

  • Curt
  • Gooseneck for Fifth Wheel Rails
  • Fixed Ball - Centered
  • Fixed Ball
  • 25000 lbs GTW
  • 2-5/16 Hitch Ball
  • 6250 lbs TW


Features:

  • Capacity: 25,000 lbs GTW
  • Vertical load limit or pin weight: 6,250 lbs
  • Requires fifth wheel base rails and bracket kit
    • Mounts to industry standard Valley, Demco, Husky, Draw-Tite, Reese, Hidden Hitch, and Curt fifth wheel rails
  • Has 2-5/16" trailer ball
  • Includes safety chain attachments
  • Includes pins and clips for rail attachment
  • Durable, carbide powder coat finish that resists rust and corrosion


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Note: Rails and installation kit are sold separately.



16085 Curt Spyder Gooseneck Trailer Hitch for Fifth Wheel Rails

Installation Details 16085 Installation instructions



Video of Curt Spyder Gooseneck Trailer Hitch for Fifth Wheel Rails, 25,000 lbs GTW

Videos are provided as a guide only. Refer to manufacturer installation instructions and specs for complete information.




Video Transcript for Curt Gooseneck Trailer Hitch Review

Jake: Hey guys, it's Jake here with etrailer today. We're going to be taking a look at two different Curt products, but they're going to accomplish the same thing. We're going to be looking at the curd spider and the Curt drop-in plate. Both of them are going to be a gooseneck conversion for your fifth wheel rails that are already in your bed.Now what I like about this is let's say you have a fifth wheel camper that you go camping with for the past couple of years. And you decide that you want to either haul a gooseneck trailer because you got a side project coming up or something like that, but you don't want to take out your bed because you still like going camping. This is designed to help you haul goosenecks in the proper way, by just utilizing the rails that are already in your bed.The first difference is going to be that our safety chain loops on our spider are going to be on the front and they're going to be spring-loaded, just like our standard ones are on your regular goosenecks.

Can be spring-loaded, pull it out, hook your safety chain on there, and you're ready to go. The ball is another area of concern. So the gooseneck ball on our spider is going to sit directly in the center of our two rails. It's also going to sit from the bottom of the spider to the top of the ball, is going to be about seven and a half inches. Let's go ahead and take a look at the Curt plate for gooseneck adapter and show you the difference.

With our Curt plate. You can see that our safety chain loops are incorporated in the plate itself. You just simply hook your safety chain hooks onto these loops, and it's going to be safe to travel down the road.You're going to notice that our ball is going to be slightly offset either to the front or the rear. We can flip this plate around depending on what kind of vehicle that we're towing it with. If we have a long bed, it's not really going to matter which configuration you use it for.

You are going to be able to use it with the ball facing the cab, or more towards the cab. And if you have a short bed truck, which you can do, is you can take the whole plate and have these handy little grip slots that you can put your hands so you don't smash it in between the bed and the sides of our plate. Simply lift it up, spin it around, set it down, and you can see very easily. We just gained about six inches back and neither of our balls are going to be in the center of our two rails.So this is going to give us that extra cab clearance that we need for the nose of our trailer, if you're hauling it in a short bed. The biggest difference between the two gooseneck adapters I'll have to say is going to be the height of your ball.

The height of our ball on our gooseneck plate here is going to be only from the top of your rails to the top of the ball is only going to be about four and a half inches. So you can tell the difference between the sheer size of our spider and our plate is that you're going to gain about three inches if you're using the spider. Whereas if you don't want to have to adjust your coupler on your trailer, or if you can't adjust it enough, we've gotten a lot of reviews that say that they cannot put their coupler any further up inside their gooseneck hitch.So they're going to have to go with the plate because the spider was simply too tall. They couldn't adjust their trailer to the right height to haul it level. Both the hitch adapters are going to install the same way; simply lift it up and drop it into place. Both the spider and the gooseneck plate are going to come with four pins so that you don't have to rely on your pins from your fifth wheel to be able to get it locked into place. Both of the hitches are going to have the same weight capacities. It's going to have a 25,000 pound gross towing weight and a 6,250 pound tongue weight. Both of these hitches are going to have a carbide black powder coat, which is going to be stronger than just your standard powder coat. You're not going to have to worry about it, shipping or flaking, and then potentially rusting your hitch.With that being said, the hitch is made of a sturdy steel construction. And it will say Curt did a very good job of making this out of a very thick quarter inch steel. So when it comes down to it, they're both going to be made out of the same materials. The spider is going to be a little bit heavier and bulkier to put down into place, and it's going to stick up higher, as we went over. They're both going to feature a 2 5/16 ball. So you're not going to have to worry about them being different in that aspect. What it's really going to come down to is what are you using it for And what are you using it with If you have a short bed truck and you have a camper that you're towing with this and that your camper has a gooseneck coupler on it, or maybe you have a horse trailer that has a larger nose, and you'd like a little bit more space for the cab of your truck to have some more clearance. I would definitely go with the Curt plate. If you have a long bed truck, or you have a short bed truck, but you're just hauling a trailer with a simple gooseneck coupler on it, and you don't have any clearance issues. Then I'd go with the spider.


Customer Reviews

Curt Spyder Gooseneck Trailer Hitch for Fifth Wheel Rails, 25,000 lbs GTW - 16085

Average Customer Rating:  4.9 out of 5 stars   (231 Customer Reviews)


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Wow, fast delivery and fits snug in the rails. Very impressed with adaptor and customer service. We use it to pull a 16 ft. Livestock trailer. Way better then a bumper pull for us. 472317



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I have been an E trailer customer for over 8 years now. I was not surprised when my hitch showed up ahead of schedule and installed with ease. Great work from a great company. 471447



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Fits like a glove very pleased thank you 410425



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Very very pleased worked perfectly with my rail system and is super easy to install. Very fast delivery with just the free delivery ordered on 4/13 and received it 4/17.. only thing i will say is its a little taller then i thought it would be but on a non lifted truck there would be completely no problem my truck does have a lift so does make the trailer sit more unlevel then a flat bed mount would but im still extremely pleased with it... will definitely use this company again for anything i need... 497547



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Works perfectly with my Reese 5th wheel rails. 545207



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Somehow the hitch and the bolts made it but I am not sure how. The packaging was crazy. Holes in it then it had been wrapped and stapled with cardboard all around. The delivery company left it in a yard swing in my front yard. I just happen to see it. No note on the door or anything. I have no idea how long it had been there. This is no reflection on etrailer because you guys are great and were a wonderful help to me in getting me what I need. I really appreciate you all and will do business with you again and tell others to also! Thanks a million! 226129


Comments
This is the greatest hitch! Easy In - Easy Out! not so heavy that I cannot install or remove all by myself. It was the most perfect decision for us!
Debra B - 09/19/2016

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Excellent hitch. Fast delivery. Fit perfect to my rails. 898642



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Perfect fit for rail system, very well made 898556



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Nice verity of products. Easy to navigate website. Even received my hitch early. Keep up the good work. 896189



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The fit was perfect and the hitch is performing perfectly. It's a quality product. 893065



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It has worked very well for what I need, I like to be able to switch back and fourth from gooseneck to fifth wheel, this is a great product highly recommend it!!! 891779



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Installed into the rail system and pins in great 859427



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Easy to use and attach to the rails of our 5th whrel hitch. Works smooth and is a solid secure hitch. Happy to use it. 852916



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it fit our Reese 5th wheel hitch rails perfectly. We hooked our gooseneck 4 horse trailer to it and it pulled just fine. 851726



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Been using it to tow my BIG TEX dump trailer, easy to take off whenever not needed. QUALITY STUFF!!! 829676



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It’s it’s a good hitch Just hooking up the chains is a little Difficult because of where they have you hook them up at wishThey came out of the top instead of the side 820954



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Product was a fifth wheel installation kit. Product was as advertised. Simple to order. Delivered immediately. 818204



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Worked as it should, well built easy to put on and remove when extra room is needed, nice powder coating. 800708



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It's easy to put in and take out and it's not real big and bulky 793503



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Just got back from a 500 mile trip. The Spyder hitch took about 1 min. to install and worked great pulling my 10,000 pound trailer. Thanks! 783608



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Great product and great service 779093



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Easy install 776216



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Very satisfied, great product. 776139


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Ask the Experts about this Curt Gooseneck Hitch

  • What is Trailer Overhang Width When Determining if Trailer Has Clearance to Make Tight Turns
    Basically I was referring to the width of the goosneck trailer nose. So measure the width of the trailer at the very front. This is the formula you referenced though. To determine if you can safely make tight turns, there is a formula you can follow. Measure the distance from the center of the gooseneck ball to the back of the truck cab. Call this measurement A. Next, measure the width of the trailer overhang and divide by 2 to get half, measurement B. If A is 4 inches or more than...
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  • Can Curt Spyder Fifth Wheel Rail Adapter Fit 2007 Chevrolet Silverado 3500 Classic
    If the B and W hitch you have is a Patriot like # BWRVK3200 and was designed to fit the industry standard fifth wheel rails that are spaced 22 inches apart the Curt Spyder part # 16085 would fit and work well. If the hitch is a Companion and uses a gooseneck hitch as an attachment point this adapter would not work. If you were missing the ball though you'd just need the part # BWGNXA2000 and you'd be set.
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  • Recommendation For Best Choice For Gooseneck Trailer Hitch Adapter For Fifth Wheel Rails
    Both the Curt Spyder Gooseneck Trailer Hitch For Fifth Wheel Rails, Item # 16085, and the Curt Above-Bed Gooseneck Trailer Hitch For Fifth Wheel Rails, Item # 16055, will work well for you. They both have a weight capacity of 25,000-lbs and a vertical load limit of 6,250-lbs. Both options work with most industry standard fifth hitch rails like Curt, Reese, Valley, Draw-Tite, etc. One major difference is that the Spyder sits 7-1/2 inches above the rails at the highest point whereas...
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  • Curt Spyder Goosneck Trailer Hitch for 5th Wheel Rails Compatibility with 2006 Ram 2500 Short Bed
    The Curt Spyder Gooseneck Trailer Hitch for Fifth Wheel Rails, 25,000 lbs GTW # 16085 is a fit for any industry standard rails like those for your Curt Sliding 5th wheel hitch. You do not need to buy any more parts to make this function with your above bed 5th wheel rails on your 2006 Dodge Ram 2500. The safety chain loops are integrated and the pins and clips are also included. You will want to be aware of your limited turning clearance due to your short bed, but this hitch will work...
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  • Gooseneck Hitch Needed for a Reese Signature Series Under Bed Rail Kit
    To install a gooseneck ball in the bed of your truck with a Reese Signature Series fifth-wheel hitch system, you will need to use the Reese Elite Series Above-Bed Gooseneck Trailer Hitch, item # RP30845. The Reese Signature Series fifth-wheel hitch system uses a puck style attachment in the bed of the truck that is not compatible with the Curt Spyder Gooseneck Trailer Hitch for Fifth Wheel Rails, item # 16085. This fifth-wheel to gooseneck adapter is designed to install into standard...
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  • Dimensions of the Curt Spyder Gooseneck Trailer Hitch # 16085
    Curt does not usually provide their product drawings or spec diagrams for their products, but, if you were looking for a specific dimension on the Curt Spyder Gooseneck Trailer Hitch, # 16085, just let me know and I can get that for you. I have attached a photo showing some basic dimensions of this hitch for your convenience. The mounting tabs on this hitch are 20-1/2 inches apart side to side on center and 22 inches apart front to back on center. This hitch was designed to fit in the...
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  • Hitch Ball Size on 5th Wheel to Goosneck Trailer Adapter
    Are you referring to an adapter to tow a gooseneck trailer with fifth wheel rails like the Curt Spyder # 16085? If so then yes, the hitch ball is a standard 2-5/16 inch gooseneck ball. If I'm misunderstanding what you're asking, or you have a specific product you're asking about, let me know so I can get you the correct answer.
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  • Comparing the Curt Spyder and Pro Series Gooseneck Trailer Hitches for 5th Wheel Rails
    First, I have included a link to all of the gooseneck hitches we carry that fit in 5th wheel rails. The Curt Spyder, # 16085, has a low profile design and it is heavier than the Pro Series plate style hitch # 49080. Besides that, there really are not a lot of differences. The big advantage that the Pro Series hitch has is that it can be oriented so that the ball is closer to the back of the truck for more clearance when towing with a short bed truck. For me, I like the Pro Series...
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  • Picking Out Gooseneck Trailer to Tow with 2017 Toyota Tundra Short Bed
    I wish we had that type of info we could give out. Best advice we can give would be to make sure you under the towing capacity of your truck with the weight of the trailer you plan to tow. Also since you have a short bed truck make sure the nose of the trailer is narrow otherwise you'll have turning clearance issues. When it's time to pick out a hitch for your 2017 Toyota Tundra the best option is the B and W Gooseneck part # BWGNRK1257 as it's the easiest to use, best made, and longest...
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  • Recommendation for a Gooseneck Trailer Hitch Adapter for Fifth Wheel Rails
    We do offer gooseneck trailer hitch adapters for standard above the bed 5th wheel rails. I have linked our page of these items for your convenience. All of these gooseneck hitch plates carry a 25,000 lbs. weight capacity. I recommend the Curt Spyder # 16085 because it isn't as bulky as other designs and has spring-loaded safety chain attachments that tuck away when not in use. It is important to point out that these are designed to work with industry standard above the bed rails.
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  • Can Short Bed Trucks Tow Gooseneck Trailers
    The one really big downside to gooseneck towing is that there isn't a great solution for short bed truck clearance unlike fifth wheel towing. With fifth wheel hitches you can use a slider hitch and have the clearance issue handled. With gooseneck towing there isn't really anything you can do. The only way it's possible is if the nose of the gooseneck trailer is tapered to help with the turning clearance. The Spyder part # 16085 does fit industry standard fifth wheel rails like you have...
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  • Is There a Gooseneck Ball That Will Mount On a Curt Fifth Wheel Frame Rails in a 04 Chevy Silverado
    If you want a gooseneck adapter that would mount to the existing frame rails from the Curt Q5 20K 5th Wheel Hitch, part # 16126, in your 2004 Chevrolet Silverado I would recommend the Curt Spyder Gooseneck Trailer Hitch for Fifth Wheel Rails, 25,000 lbs GTW, part # 16085. The # 16085 will fit into and attach directly into your 5th wheel rails exactly like your Q5 Curt 20k 5th Wheel Hitch does. I have attached installation instructions in a link below for you to check out if you like.
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  • Where do 5th Wheel Rails Install on a 1997 Chevy K2500
    The brackets will install onto the frame of your 1997 K2500, to determine exactly where you will need to find the correct location of the rails for the hitch and then install them in relation to where the rails will need to be installed. To determine the location of the rails you will need to measure 30-15/16 inches from the rear of the truck bed to the rear edge of the rear hitch rail if you have an 8 ft bed and 26-3/16 inches if you have a short bed. Check out the installation instructions...
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  • Troubleshooting Gooseneck Hitch that Won't Lock onto 2-5/16 inch Ball
    It really sounds like your gooseneck hitch is designed for a 3 inch gooseneck ball. I know you said that you attached to your friends B and W hitch, but B and W offers a 3 inch ball # BWGNXA2025. The 3 inch setup is less common but it is still seen out there. If your trailer is larger it is very possible that you need a 3 inch ball. Which there are no adapters like the Spyder that have 3 inch balls. This would call for the replacement of your coupler or the install of a gooseneck hitch...
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  • Will Curt Spyder Gooseneck Trailer Hitch, # 16085, Fit in Reese 5th WHeel Trailer Hitch Rails
    The Curt Spyder Gooseneck Trailer Hitch, # 16085, is compatible with the Reese 5th wheel rails you have. I have included a link to the installation details for this hitch for you to view. We do have several options for gooseneck trailer hitches that fit in 5th wheel rails. The most economical is Pro Series 25K Gooseneck Plate, # 49080. The benefit of this hitch is that it can be mounted with the ball closer to the rear of the truck to provide an offset if you have a short bed truck....
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  • Gooseneck Neck Trailer Rides Too High in the Front
    All of the gooseneck hitches that fit 5th wheel rails are going to be roughly the same height and won't lower the trailer enough to tow it level. But there is an alternative. You may be able to use an over/under conversion kit or otherwise raise the height at the back of the trailer. You can use an over/under conversion kit if: The trailer leaf spring stack is currently mounted under the axles The trailer uses double-eye springs And the trailer has 2-3/8 inch or 3 inch diameter...
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  • Will the Curt Spyder 5th Wheel Rail to Gooseneck Hitch Adapter Fit 5th Wheel Rails in Silverado
    The Curt Spyder gooseneck hitch # 16085 will fit in Valley, Draw-Tite, Reese, Hidden Hitch, Husky and Curt Fifth Wheel Rails. It has not been tested in any other brand. But you can determine if it will fit by looking at the measurements in the picture I have provided of the standard rails. All of the manufacturers above use the same style and measurement rails. If yours match up then you can use the Spyder.
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  • Can Curt Spyder Gooseneck Trailer Hitch for Fifth Wheel Rails Be Used With 5th Wheel Rail Adapter
    The Curt Spyder Gooseneck Trailer Hitch for Fifth Wheel Rails, part # 16085 does have safety chain holders, but it is really not advisable to use an adapter with an adapter. The only alternative I can recommend is to remove the # RP30154 from the bed of the truck when you want to use the gooseneck hitch. You could then use the gooseneck kit like part # RP30140. I have attached a photo that shows where they are located on the # 16085. I have also attached a product review video for...
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  • Comparing the Curt Spyder and Pro Series Gooseneck Hitches for 5th Wheel Rails
    The Curt Spyder gooseneck hitch that fits in 5th wheel rails # 16085 is just a different design than the plates such as # 49080. The Spyder cannot be mounted with an offset (with the ball closer to the tailgate) but since you have a long bed truck you would not need the offset for turning clearance. The Pro Series Gooseneck plate, # 49080, has the ball welded closer to one end than the other so it can be mounted with an offset. Both types of hitches have places to attach safety cables....
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  • Recommendation for High Capacity 5th Wheel Setup in a 1994 Dodge Ram 2500 Long Bed
    I would recommend the Reese 5th Wheel Trailer Hitch, 22,000 lbs, item # RP30033, for a high weight capacity fifth-wheel hitch that can accept a gooseneck hitch like the Curt Spyder Gooseneck Trailer Hitch for Fifth Wheel Rails, item # 16085. Along with this kit you would need the Reese Universal Base Rails and Installation Kit, item # RP30035, and fifth wheel wiring for the bed of your pickup like the Draw-Tite Fifth Wheel and Gooseneck Wiring Harness with 7-Pole - Dodge with Factory...
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  • What is the Thickness of the Metal on the Curt Spyder Gooseneck Trailer Hitch # 16085
    I went out into our warehouse and measured the dimensions of the legs that run from the hitch plate to the tabs that go into the rails of the Curt Spyder Gooseneck Trailer Hitch, part # 16085, and found that the height of the legs is 1-1/2 inches and the width of the legs is 2-1/8 inches straight across at its widest point near the mounting brackets. This hitch can handle 25,000 lbs GTW, I also attached installation instructions for this product below for you to check out.
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  • Recommendation for Gooseneck Adapter on Little Rocker 5th Wheel Rails
    Good news, I have a solution for your 5th Wheel Base Rails from the Lil Rocker. Since the Lil Rocker only has the middle set of slots on the rails, the gooseneck adapter tabs must fit a 20-1/2 inch spread on the same rail for it to work. The Curt Spyder # 16085 does that, and I like it because the u-bolts are stored below the unit. I have linked all the plates we offer for your convenience. Curt Pintle Hook # C48007, comes with a 2 inch ball and will fit into 2 inch hitches. If...
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  • Compatibility of Curt Spyder Gooseneck Adapter with Husky Fifth Wheel Rails
    The Curt Spyder Gooseneck Adapter Plate is compatible with Valley fifth wheel install rails, and Husky rails were manufactured by Valley. It is a fairly safe bet that the Adapter Plate will most likely be compatible with your rails. You can confirm this by comparing the spacing of the slots on your existing rails to those shown in the photo I provided. If the center-to-center dimension of the mounting slots is 20-1/2 inches, the Curt Spyder would indeed work with your existing rails.
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  • What Other Goose Neck Hitch Ball Sizes Are Available Besides The 2-5/16"?
    We have only seen gooseneck hitch balls that are 2-5/16" and 3". If you're looking for a Curt fifth wheel to gooseneck adapter like the Curt # 16085 that has a 3" ball we have part # 16055. Included is the review video for reference.
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  • Could Curt Spyder Gooseneck Adapter 16085 Fit in Rails Pullrite Superglide Fit
    Pullrite does have a line of hitches that fit industry standard rails like what the part # 16085 is designed to fit. If you had the Superglide 2700 hitch and a rail kit that fit that hitch then yes the adapter would work. One easy way to determine what you have would be to measure the distance between the centers of the rails. If they are 22 inches and look like what I attached a picture of then this adapter will work.
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  • What is the Ball Size on the Curt Spyder 5th Wheel to Gooseneck Adapter
    The common ball size for a gooseneck hitch is 2-5/16 inch and that is what is on the Curt Spyder gooseneck hitch # 16085. On rare occasions you might see a 3 inch ball but it is very uncommon. I have included a link to a video review of this adapter for you. If you have a short bed truck I recommend an adapter with an offset such as # 49080 so you will have more turning clearance.
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  • Can the Curt Spyder 5th Wheel/Gooseneck Adapter Handle a Loaded 3-Horse Trailer
    The Curt Spyder Gooseneck Trailer Hitch # 16085 is rated for 25,000 pounds gross trailer weight and 6,250 pounds pin weight so provided that the trailer is under those capacities the Spyder will handle it, no problem. The Spyder will also fit the 5th wheel rails that you have in your 2004 Dodge Ram! I have linked a video showing the features of the Spyder for you.
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  • Will Curt Spyder Gooseneck Fit in Reese Fifth Wheel Rail Kit # RP50066-58
    Yes, the Curt Spyder Gooseneck adapter part # 16085 that you referenced is designed to fit the rail design of the Reese rail kit part # RP50066-58 that you also referenced.
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