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Curt Spyder Gooseneck Trailer Hitch for Fifth Wheel Rails, 25,000 lbs GTW

Curt Spyder Gooseneck Trailer Hitch for Fifth Wheel Rails, 25,000 lbs GTW

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Is this right For you? Product Expert Kathleen M says:

Yes, if you:

  • Have 5th wheel rails in your truck and want to use them to haul your gooseneck trailer
  • Have a gooseneck coupler that's a little short and need some extra height in your truck to get hooked up

No, if you:

  • Need to move this around a lot and want something that weighs less than 50 lbs
  • Haul a trailer that weighs 25,000 lbs or more
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CURT Gooseneck Hitch - 16085

  • CURT
  • Fixed Ball - Centered
  • Gooseneck for Fifth Wheel Rails
  • 25000 lbs GTW
  • Fixed Ball
  • 2-5/16 Hitch Ball
  • 6250 lbs TW


Features:

  • Capacity: 25,000 lbs GTW
  • Vertical load limit or pin weight: 6,250 lbs
  • Requires fifth wheel base rails and bracket kit
    • Mounts to industry standard Valley, Demco, Husky, Draw-Tite, Reese, Hidden Hitch, B&W, and Curt fifth wheel rails
  • Has 2-5/16" trailer ball
  • Includes safety chain attachments
  • Includes pins and clips for rail attachment
  • Durable, carbide powder coat finish that resists rust and corrosion


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Note: Rails and installation kit are sold separately.



16085 Curt Spyder Gooseneck Trailer Hitch for Fifth Wheel Rails

Installation Details 16085 Installation instructions



Video of Curt Spyder Gooseneck Trailer Hitch for Fifth Wheel Rails, 25,000 lbs GTW

Videos are provided as a guide only. Refer to manufacturer installation instructions and specs for complete information.




Video Transcript for Curt Gooseneck Trailer Hitch Review

Jake: Hey guys, it's Jake here with etrailer today. We're going to be taking a look at two different Curt products, but they're going to accomplish the same thing. We're going to be looking at the curd spider and the Curt drop-in plate. Both of them are going to be a gooseneck conversion for your fifth wheel rails that are already in your bed.Now what I like about this is let's say you have a fifth wheel camper that you go camping with for the past couple of years. And you decide that you want to either haul a gooseneck trailer because you got a side project coming up or something like that, but you don't want to take out your bed because you still like going camping. This is designed to help you haul goosenecks in the proper way, by just utilizing the rails that are already in your bed.The first difference is going to be that our safety chain loops on our spider are going to be on the front and they're going to be spring-loaded, just like our standard ones are on your regular goosenecks.

Can be spring-loaded, pull it out, hook your safety chain on there, and you're ready to go. The ball is another area of concern. So the gooseneck ball on our spider is going to sit directly in the center of our two rails. It's also going to sit from the bottom of the spider to the top of the ball, is going to be about seven and a half inches. Let's go ahead and take a look at the Curt plate for gooseneck adapter and show you the difference.

With our Curt plate. You can see that our safety chain loops are incorporated in the plate itself. You just simply hook your safety chain hooks onto these loops, and it's going to be safe to travel down the road.You're going to notice that our ball is going to be slightly offset either to the front or the rear. We can flip this plate around depending on what kind of vehicle that we're towing it with. If we have a long bed, it's not really going to matter which configuration you use it for.

You are going to be able to use it with the ball facing the cab, or more towards the cab. And if you have a short bed truck, which you can do, is you can take the whole plate and have these handy little grip slots that you can put your hands so you don't smash it in between the bed and the sides of our plate. Simply lift it up, spin it around, set it down, and you can see very easily. We just gained about six inches back and neither of our balls are going to be in the center of our two rails.So this is going to give us that extra cab clearance that we need for the nose of our trailer, if you're hauling it in a short bed. The biggest difference between the two gooseneck adapters I'll have to say is going to be the height of your ball.

The height of our ball on our gooseneck plate here is going to be only from the top of your rails to the top of the ball is only going to be about four and a half inches. So you can tell the difference between the sheer size of our spider and our plate is that you're going to gain about three inches if you're using the spider. Whereas if you don't want to have to adjust your coupler on your trailer, or if you can't adjust it enough, we've gotten a lot of reviews that say that they cannot put their coupler any further up inside their gooseneck hitch.So they're going to have to go with the plate because the spider was simply too tall. They couldn't adjust their trailer to the right height to haul it level. Both the hitch adapters are going to install the same way; simply lift it up and drop it into place. Both the spider and the gooseneck plate are going to come with four pins so that you don't have to rely on your pins from your fifth wheel to be able to get it locked into place. Both of the hitches are going to have the same weight capacities. It's going to have a 25,000 pound gross towing weight and a 6,250 pound tongue weight. Both of these hitches are going to have a carbide black powder coat, which is going to be stronger than just your standard powder coat. You're not going to have to worry about it, shipping or flaking, and then potentially rusting your hitch.With that being said, the hitch is made of a sturdy steel construction. And it will say Curt did a very good job of making this out of a very thick quarter inch steel. So when it comes down to it, they're both going to be made out of the same materials. The spider is going to be a little bit heavier and bulkier to put down into place, and it's going to stick up higher, as we went over. They're both going to feature a 2 5/16 ball. So you're not going to have to worry about them being different in that aspect. What it's really going to come down to is what are you using it for And what are you using it with If you have a short bed truck and you have a camper that you're towing with this and that your camper has a gooseneck coupler on it, or maybe you have a horse trailer that has a larger nose, and you'd like a little bit more space for the cab of your truck to have some more clearance. I would definitely go with the Curt plate. If you have a long bed truck, or you have a short bed truck, but you're just hauling a trailer with a simple gooseneck coupler on it, and you don't have any clearance issues. Then I'd go with the spider.


Customer Reviews

Curt Spyder Gooseneck Trailer Hitch for Fifth Wheel Rails, 25,000 lbs GTW - 16085

Average Customer Rating:  4.9 out of 5 stars   (304 Customer Reviews)


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Great purchase as it has performed perfectly. Allows me to switch between my 5th wheel hitch and gooseneck as needed. Others that have seen it have been impressed also.



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Arrived sooner than expected. Product is of good quality. Took about two minutes to install.



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I have a fifth wheel hitch already and needed to tow Gooseneck trailers. Was able to use fifth wheel base and mount Gooseneck hitch right to it. Works great.



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Great purchase!! Exactly what I needed to pull my gooseneck trailer. Have had absolutely no problems with it after a full year of using it. Great product!



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Product was shipped in a timely manner, fit my rails perfectly, really liked the design & have already used with my new gooseneck trailer.



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Sturdy built product. Didnt exactly fall into my rail slots but a few whacks with the BFH while standing on it and it aligned. Great option for getting a gooseneck ball in truck bought with fifth wheel rails compared to putting whole new ball hitch in. Ordered 2-24 arrived 2-26.



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it fit our Reese 5th wheel hitch rails perfectly. We hooked our gooseneck 4 horse trailer to it and it pulled just fine.



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Very very pleased worked perfectly with my rail system and is super easy to install. Very fast delivery with just the free delivery ordered on 4/13 and received it 4/17.. only thing i will say is its a little taller then i thought it would be but on a non lifted truck there would be completely no problem my truck does have a lift so does make the trailer sit more unlevel then a flat bed mount would but im still extremely pleased with it... will definitely use this company again for anything i need...



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As tough as they get! Hauled over 60 tons of road base using it and my tandem dual dump trailer. Last load believe it or not my 2006 Dodge 3500 1 ton truck, trailer and rock came in @ 42000 lbs. Touch overloaded, but otherwise everything held up well. I bought this type of hitch for my farm truck as it already had the rails for a fifth wheel setup, also a Curt 15K hitch for RVs. Good product! Will purchase from e-Trailer again when I get ready for a hidden hitch in my 2015 Ram!



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I have been an E trailer customer for over 8 years now. I was not surprised when my hitch showed up ahead of schedule and installed with ease. Great work from a great company.



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Just got my gooseneck trailer hitch for 5th wheel rails. Very good packaging, awesome service it arrived a day earlier than expected. Hopefully I get to try it out this weekend. It looks well built.



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Well made and fit perfectly into existing 5th wheel rails. Have only used once but the capacity of the hitch exceeds my trucks tow rating so am not expecting any issues. Much easier and cheaper than other options when you already have 5th wheel rails.


Comments
Have used the hitch to tow a flatbed gooseneck trailer loaded with 20ft logs over an 8500 ft mountain without worry. Very robust construction, should last several lifetimes!
Mark - 02/27/2021


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Really, really like this hitch! Replaced a Draw-Tite arch hitch with this one. The Spyder has a little more rise to it which helps the trailer sit and clear the bed a little bit better. I like the weight of it, easier to handle and remove/install. The integrated brake away hooks for the safety chains are a big plus. Highly recommend and would purchase again.



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I bought this gooseneck Hitch back in 2016 I can't say I've used it everyday of the week but I do use it pull a cattle trailer occasionally and I've used it to pull 20,000lbs of silage bales out of the field and it's held up great no stress points or anything showing paint has held up great. It's a very heavy built hitch I would deffenitly recommend it to anyone that has the rails in there truck and is doin pretty stressful towing. It also sits the trailer up a lil higher and I love that really helps with twisting and turns.



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Works perfectly with my Reese 5th wheel rails.



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I installed this in minutes and it is just what I needed because my travel trailer fits over this hitch at same time so I always have this hitch in truck. It looks good to me also. It is a solid made product so I have no Cons for this unit. I would recommend this for any one that does not want to change his fifth wheel rail type mounts to the expenses hid away hitch to use a goose mount hitch.



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It has worked very well for what I need, I like to be able to switch back and fourth from gooseneck to fifth wheel, this is a great product highly recommend it!!!



- 16085
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VERY IMPRESSED WITH THE HITCH, AS WAS THE GUY THAT I BOUGHT THE GOOSE NECK TRAILER FROM. I TOLD HIM ABOUT ETRAILER AND HOW GOOD YOUR SERVICE WAS AND PRICES. AND AS ALWAYS THE SHIPPING WAS FAST! THE THING WEIGHS ALOT! I AM GUESSING THAT THE LEGS ARE SOLID STEEL!



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Great product, fit right in, pulls great. Quick shipping. Great folks to deal with



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Awesome service really fast shipping. Product seem really nice.



- 16085
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Received my hitch in just a few days, haven’t used it yet. I’m glad products like this exist so I can hook up to a gooseneck. I chose this one because I have curt rails and I like the spring loaded safety chain loops.



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Wow, fast delivery and fits snug in the rails. Very impressed with adaptor and customer service. We use it to pull a 16 ft. Livestock trailer. Way better then a bumper pull for us.



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I am very happy with this product. The only negative thing I would have to say is that it is a pain to hook your safety chains.



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I ordered the Gooseneck Curt 25K Spyder. I ordered it 2 day delivery and actually got it in one day. Excellent service! Fits my Reese/Draw-Tite Fifth Wheel Rails perfectly.



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Fit perfect first time. The Reese hitch was welded together so bad its going to scrap.


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Ask the Experts about this CURT Gooseneck Hitch



  • Will the Curt Spyder 5th Wheel Rail to Gooseneck Hitch Adapter Fit 5th Wheel Rails in Silverado
    The Curt Spyder gooseneck hitch # 16085 will fit in Valley, Draw-Tite, Reese, Hidden Hitch, Husky and Curt Fifth Wheel Rails. It has not been tested in any other brand. But you can determine if it will fit by looking at the measurements in the picture I have provided of the standard rails. All of the manufacturers above use the same style and measurement rails. If yours match up then you can use the Spyder.
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  • Why Would a Gooseneck Trailer Shift When it is Unhooked
    The shift you may be experiencing when unhooking your gooseneck or fifth wheel trailer most likely has nothing to do with the ball of your adapter sitting too high. It most likely is just from the truck and trailer not sitting level. Which if this is the case I would recommend you chock the wheels with something like a Buyers Products Wheel Chock # 337WC1467A when connecting or disconnecting. You will want to have your trailer sitting as level as possible though. However, there are no...
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  • What Rails is the Curt Spyder Gooseneck Trailer Hitch for Fifth Wheel Rails Compatible With
    This Curt Spyder Gooseneck Trailer Hitch for Fifth Wheel Rails # 16085 that you referenced will install into Valley, Draw-Tite, Reese, Hidden Hitch and Curt fifth wheel rails that are above the bed. If you have rails by any of those brands this product should work for you. I attached installation instructions for this product for you to check out also.
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  • What is the Mounting Feet Center to Center Distance on the CURT Spyder Gooseneck Trailer Hitch
    On the above the bed rails that the CURT Spyder, # 16085 fits into, there are 3 sets of mounting slots per rail. The CURT hitch uses the middle set which are 20-5/8 inches apart on center. From front to back they should be approximately 22 inches apart on center. I have included a link to the installation details for the hitch for you.
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  • Compatibility of Curt Spyder Gooseneck Adapter with Husky Fifth Wheel Rails
    The Curt Spyder Gooseneck Adapter Plate is compatible with Valley fifth wheel install rails, and Husky rails were manufactured by Valley. It is a fairly safe bet that the Adapter Plate will most likely be compatible with your rails. You can confirm this by comparing the spacing of the slots on your existing rails to those shown in the photo I provided. If the center-to-center dimension of the mounting slots is 20-1/2 inches, the Curt Spyder would indeed work with your existing rails.
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  • Dimensions of the Curt Spyder Gooseneck Trailer Hitch # 16085
    Curt does not usually provide their product drawings or spec diagrams for their products, but, if you were looking for a specific dimension on the Curt Spyder Gooseneck Trailer Hitch, # 16085, just let me know and I can get that for you. I have attached a photo showing some basic dimensions of this hitch for your convenience. The mounting tabs on this hitch are 20-1/2 inches apart side to side on center and 22 inches apart front to back on center. This hitch was designed to fit in the...
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  • Springs and U-Bolts that Come with the Spyder Gooseneck Hitch for Fifth Wheel Rails
    The springs and u-bolts that come with the Curt Gooseneck, part # 16085 , are for the safety chains. Once installed, they are safety chain attachments. The link below will take you to the installation instructions online.
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  • Is the hitch ball on the Curt Spyder Gooseneck Trailer Hitch for Fifth Wheel Rails welded in?
    Yes, the Curt Spyder Gooseneck Trailer Hitch for Fifth Wheel Rails, part # 16908, is solidly welded on. It requires fifth wheel base rails and a bracket kit for mounting (sold separately). I spoke with my contact at Curt Manufacturing and she said the ball cannot be replaced since it would compromise the integrity of the product.
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  • Measuring for a Gooseneck to 5th Wheel Trailer Adapter
    To measure correctly for a Fifth Wheel to Gooseneck Trailer Adapter (see link) you will need to have your vehicle and trailer positioned level. If your truck is at a pitch or parked on a grade, and the trailer is level, the measurement will not be correct and the trailer will not be level when towing. Adding extra inches to an adapter, to clear bed rail mounted accessories, will cause the trailer to be towed out of level and will increase stress on the hitch and the towing vehicle along...
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  • Is There a Gooseneck Ball That Will Mount On a Curt Fifth Wheel Frame Rails in a 04 Chevy Silverado
    If you want a gooseneck adapter that would mount to the existing frame rails from the Curt Q5 20K 5th Wheel Hitch, part # 16126, in your 2004 Chevrolet Silverado I would recommend the Curt Spyder Gooseneck Trailer Hitch for Fifth Wheel Rails, 25,000 lbs GTW, part # 16085. The # 16085 will fit into and attach directly into your 5th wheel rails exactly like your Q5 Curt 20k 5th Wheel Hitch does. I have attached installation instructions in a link below for you to check out if you like.
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  • Will the Curt Spyder Gooseneck Trailer Hitch for 5th Wheel Rails work on Reese 5th Wheel Hitches
    This Curt Spyder Gooseneck Trailer Hitch for Fifth Wheel Rails, 25,000 lbs GTW, part # 16085, is designed so it can be used on Valley, Draw-Tite, Reese, Hidden Hitch, and Curt 5th wheel hitches that mount in above the bed rails.
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  • What is the Thickness of the Metal on the Curt Spyder Gooseneck Trailer Hitch # 16085
    I went out into our warehouse and measured the dimensions of the legs that run from the hitch plate to the tabs that go into the rails of the Curt Spyder Gooseneck Trailer Hitch, part # 16085, and found that the height of the legs is 1-1/2 inches and the width of the legs is 2-1/8 inches straight across at its widest point near the mounting brackets. This hitch can handle 25,000 lbs GTW, I also attached installation instructions for this product below for you to check out.
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  • Can the Ball in the Curt Spyder Gooseneck Trailer Hitch, # 16085 be Removed
    On the Curt Spyder Gooseneck Trailer Hitch, # 16085, the 2-5/16 inch diameter ball is welded on and cannot be removed. The unit itself is designed to fit in above the bed 5th wheel rails so it is an easy on/off application with rails installed in the bed. Rail and installation kits are sold separately, if needed.
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  • Recommendation for a Gooseneck Trailer Hitch Adapter for Fifth Wheel Rails
    We do offer gooseneck trailer hitch adapters for standard above the bed 5th wheel rails. I have linked our page of these items for your convenience. All of these gooseneck hitch plates carry a 25,000 lbs. weight capacity. I recommend the Curt Spyder # 16085 because it isn't as bulky as other designs and has spring-loaded safety chain attachments that tuck away when not in use. It is important to point out that these are designed to work with industry standard above the bed rails.
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  • Can the Curt Spyder 5th Wheel/Gooseneck Adapter Handle a Loaded 3-Horse Trailer
    The Curt Spyder Gooseneck Trailer Hitch # 16085 is rated for 25,000 pounds gross trailer weight and 6,250 pounds pin weight so provided that the trailer is under those capacities the Spyder will handle it, no problem. The Spyder will also fit the 5th wheel rails that you have in your 2004 Dodge Ram! I have linked a video showing the features of the Spyder for you.
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  • Hitch Ball Size on 5th Wheel to Goosneck Trailer Adapter
    Are you referring to an adapter to tow a gooseneck trailer with fifth wheel rails like the Curt Spyder # 16085? If so then yes, the hitch ball is a standard 2-5/16 inch gooseneck ball. If I'm misunderstanding what you're asking, or you have a specific product you're asking about, let me know so I can get you the correct answer.
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  • Recommendation for Towing Gooseneck Trailer with 5th Wheel Base Rails on 2015 Chevy Silverado
    To tow a gooseneck trailer using the 5th-wheel base rails on your 2015 Chevy Silverado, I recommend looking at the Curt Spyder Gooseneck Trailer Hitch # 16085. As long as you have above-bed, industry standard rails in your truck bed, this Gooseneck Hitch will mount directly to them and allow you to tow your gooseneck trailer. It features a 25,000 pound weight capacity and includes a 2-5/16 inch ball. I have attached a short video demonstration on this product along with the installation...
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  • Adapter Recommendation to Go From Gooseneck Trailer to Fifth Wheel Rails in Truck
    So you have a gooseneck trailer and truck with a set of fifth wheel rails installed? Is that correct? For that we have the part # 16085 which will fit your fifth wheel rails and provide you with a gooseneck ball for the trailer to connect to. If you have something else going on let me know and I'll see what options we have.
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  • Recommended Gooseneck Hitch for 5th Wheel Rails on 2006 Chevy Silverado
    As long as you have industry standard, above-bed fifth wheel base rails installed on your Chevy 3500, I recommend looking at the Curt Spyder Gooseneck Trailer Hitch # 16085. This will mount directly to the rails on your truck to provide a gooseneck hitch with a 25,000 pound towing weight capacity and 6,250 pound vertical load limit. It features a 2-5/16 inch trailer hitch ball and includes safety chain attachments. I have attached the written installation instructions and a short video...
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  • Recommended Gooseneck Compatible With Standard 5th Wheel Rails
    You most likely have industry standard rails in your truck for your 5th wheel. Based on what information you gave, I recommend the Curt Spyder Gooseneck Trailer Hitch for Fifth Wheel Rails, 25,000 lbs GTW # 16085. I've attached a photo of dimensions to help.
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  • Is it Possible to Have Curt Fifth Wheel Rails Installed and Tow Gooseneck Hitch
    The only way to install the fifth wheel rails is going to be to remove the gooseneck hitch you have installed in your truck. Once you have the rails installed though you would be able to use a Curt Spyder # 16085 to adapt the rails to a gooseneck hitch so that you could tow a gooseneck hitch in the future.
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  • Can Short Bed Trucks Tow Gooseneck Trailers
    The one really big downside to gooseneck towing is that there isn't a great solution for short bed truck clearance unlike fifth wheel towing. With fifth wheel hitches you can use a slider hitch and have the clearance issue handled. With gooseneck towing there isn't really anything you can do. The only way it's possible is if the nose of the gooseneck trailer is tapered to help with the turning clearance. The Spyder part # 16085 does fit industry standard fifth wheel rails like you have...
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  • Could Curt Spyder Gooseneck Adapter 16085 Fit in Rails Pullrite Superglide Fit
    Pullrite does have a line of hitches that fit industry standard rails like what the part # 16085 is designed to fit. If you had the Superglide 2700 hitch and a rail kit that fit that hitch then yes the adapter would work. One easy way to determine what you have would be to measure the distance between the centers of the rails. If they are 22 inches and look like what I attached a picture of then this adapter will work.
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  • Gooseneck Ball Adapter Recommendation to Replace AirSafe Fifth Wheel Hitch
    What you will need to do is remove the Airsafe Airbox 5th wheel hitch you have installed in the rails of your truck and then install the Curt Spyder part # 16085 in the rails and you would have a gooseneck hitch ball to tow a gooseneck hitch.
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